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Post by m40man on Dec 30, 2008 13:37:19 GMT
Martin i thought i was the bodger round here ! Flymo On the Divvy site? Join the queue, mate ;D. |
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Post by General Gman on Dec 30, 2008 14:05:37 GMT
Plenty of bodgers on here, mate.
Why use the proper tool when a grinder and a couple of big hammers will do ?
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Post by sharkey on Dec 30, 2008 16:47:12 GMT
Just caught up with this thread. Bl00dy amazing perseverance. As a Bodger of the old school I recognise real talent when I see it! Rear shock falling off?! No problem. Swing arm mullered? I'll 'ave me tea then I'll sort it! Car clutch f00ked? Rightio! Nice one Flymo! Front runner for YDC Bodger of the Year 08  Jim |
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Post by mikestrong on Dec 30, 2008 18:40:41 GMT
Well he gets my vote.
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Post by Flymo on Dec 31, 2008 13:48:47 GMT
Yaay ;D Swing-arm turned up this morning and a frosty morning it is too, it's in better condition that my original swing-arm was in so that's a bonus. The second hand swing-arm from ebay less than £30 including postage.  after cleaning the small amount of muck from the swing-arm i re-greased the bearings and set to work. the divvy has been sat in a state of disrepair for nearly a week now  Did i mention it was frosty ?  i decided to rivet the new chain on a flat surface before fitting it to the bike, i reckoned it would be easier to rivet that way and since the swing-arm is already off the bike getting an endless chain on is not a problem, fit chain to front sprocket before offering sprocket up to the engine. front sprocket in place.  offering up the swing-arm  with a bit of a jiggle to get the chain around the rear sprocket  Then a few frustrating minutes trying to get everything lined up for the rear spindle but patience and a fag break paid off.  a few cable ties to sort out my chain oiler and a battery boost later...  just a little bit of condensation ! and then...  You Just got to laugh, guess thats what you get for buying a neglected 12 year old bike  but i love her really, have took the center stand off for now, might get it welded back together some time. This bit is for those that know about chains.   how does that look ? hope it's alright. Regards Flymo |
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Post by cam7777 on Dec 31, 2008 13:54:15 GMT
Looks like you did a great job, will you be venturing over to Oxford way on Sunday?
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Post by General Gman on Dec 31, 2008 13:57:52 GMT
Chain looks fine, mate. If you're down this way sunday, will see you there  |
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Post by Flymo on Dec 31, 2008 14:13:50 GMT
Thats the plan...
Flymo
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Post by sharkey on Dec 31, 2008 14:50:57 GMT
Nice one Flymo. Looks like it's all coming together. Just the centre stand to sort then!
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Post by Flymo on Jan 8, 2009 20:41:01 GMT
Let us know what you think of the Betor shock after you've done some miles on it. Well 500 miles later I'll try to report on the effectiveness of the Betor rear mono-shock, there is the usual pre-load adjustment (locking rings on a screw thread, that affords infinite variability as opposed to the original stepped type) that i have wound up about 2 1/2 turns this seems about right for just me, but could do with a bit more pre-load for 2 up (have to get me a ' C ' spanner so i can adjust it more easily.) there is also a big flat head screw on the side at one end that some people say is a rebound damping rate adjust, but i don't think it makes any difference might be just me so i wound in in a couple of turns so its no longer flush and gobbed a load of grease on top of it to keep the dirt and muck out. for the ride, at first it seemed very firm but then i think my nackered one was the original so was most likely well past it's sell by date... however i soon got use to the firmness, and even thought it is much firmer, somehow the ride is less harsh over bumpy surfaces and has improved the ride no-end, cornering confidence has increased also the back end no longer feels like it's trying to skip round corners which was most noticeable on the bumpy corners before, i feel more connected with the road than i did before. for a direct replacement I'd say th Betor is as good if not slightly better than the original, you can get bells and whistles if you want but after all the D6 isn't really a sports bike so the extra money on adjustable everything probably isn't worth it unless you just like to twiddle stuff... Flymo |
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Post by beeblemaster on Jan 9, 2009 17:20:00 GMT
Nice one Andy..... read a few threads on here before saying the Betor shock was naff for the 900... but as I don't own one of those overweight tanks , I wondered what they were like for the 600, as I certainly wouldn't want to splash out on expensive shock if the time comes. |
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Post by teejayexc on Jan 9, 2009 21:01:39 GMT
Nice one Andy..... read a few threads on here before saying the Betor shock was naff for the 900... but as I don't own one of those overweight tanks , I wondered what they were like for the 600, as I certainly wouldn't want to splash out on expensive shock if the time comes. One 900 + me + pillion = One 600 + Beebs |
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Post by mikestrong on Jan 10, 2009 12:52:54 GMT
Here Here ;D
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Post by Flymo on Jan 11, 2009 14:05:19 GMT
Hi all,
Daft quick question, is it normal for a new chain to need re-tensioning after only 600 miles ?
Flymo
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Post by teejayexc on Jan 11, 2009 14:37:27 GMT
Hi all, Daft quick question, is it normal for a new chain to need re-tensioning after only 600 miles ? Flymo Hi Andy, yup normally needs re-tensioning after settling in period. |
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Post by CD on Jan 20, 2009 11:31:31 GMT
Its well worth fitting a scot oiler. It wont lube the chain internally but it will protect the sprockets. When they wear they hammer the chain and it soon wears out. My bro has an SO on his MZ250. Its done 25000 on one (non o-ring) chain & sprox set with only ONE adjustment. Normally they are fooked on these bikes after 10,000 and the replacement job is a real PITA.
The MZ oil feed goes to the front sprocket and it clearly works fine. So if doing a Divvie 600, I would do the same and put the oiler conveniently under the fairing.
BTW, the centrifugal forces (for spreading chain oil) are the same at both sprockets (front smaller but spins faster). The front also works harder (fewer teeth to share the work) so oiling it directly puts the lube where its most needed.
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Post by pilgrim on Mar 4, 2009 20:55:14 GMT
That was a great read as it's just convinced me to purchase a replacement shock, but not at £240 (Wemoto) for a Hagon part! Others I've seen a lot more expensive too. A Betor unit it shall be! From DK too. On my part Flymo, good timing. All I can say is thanks and good luck with the 'new' ride and chain. BTW, check the chain every 500 miles and adjust if nec.
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Post by Flymo on Mar 4, 2009 21:03:34 GMT
That was a great read as it's just convinced me to purchase a replacement shock, but not at £240 (Wemoto) for a Hagon part! Others I've seen a lot more expensive too. A Betor unit it shall be! From DK too. On my part Flymo, good timing. All I can say is thanks and good luck with the 'new' ride and chain. BTW, check the chain every 500 miles and adjust if nec. Yes a bit of an episode and at Xmas too, was good in weird way, because i like to tinker with things so ws in my element ;D have been keeping a close eye on the chain but have only needed to adjust it once after it's initial settling in period. as said previously in this thread the Betor shock feels a bit hard but you soon get used to it and my confidence in the bikes ability to handle corners has increased too, just seems more connected to the road some how, i have in the last few weeks increased the preload a bit more as it was bottoming out 2up over some nasty bumps, haven't experienced it again since Flymo |
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Post by pilgrim on Mar 4, 2009 21:16:59 GMT
Cheers Flymo. Must say I've had no feel to the the back bike since I bought it and the rear end has been uncertain if not loose! I ride with wife pillion and only then can I say there's a rear wheel, and she's a light person too.
I can't understand why such simply made parts are (otherwise) so expensive. I think it's EMC (french) who want nearly 500 Euros for the monoshock. I can't find a technical thread to Betor though. Do you know any more about them?
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Post by Flymo on Mar 4, 2009 21:36:10 GMT
sorry the interweb thingy seems a little short of info when it comes to Betor monoshocks !
sometimes you can pick up decent 2nd hand parts on ebay, but if your in urgent need then ebay isn't always an option.
Flymo
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Post by pilgrim on Mar 4, 2009 23:33:46 GMT
Thanks Flymo |
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Post by CD on Mar 6, 2009 21:01:45 GMT
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Post by Flymo on Sept 23, 2009 16:54:03 GMT
Well 9 months down the line and 13000 miles... Betor - Better by far  My A*** the lower bush is worn and you can feel i knock now and again, been less than 12 months old i'm gonna sort out the receipt and try to get it repaired/replaced but now have bought a hagon  should be a bit better anyway Flymo Edit : It's fitted but needs a bit of tweaking, the damping needs to by turned up a bit, and adjusting the preload is going to be tricky the adjuster is at the top  my first impression against the Betor, The Hagon is more substansial the bushes both top and bottom are almost as wide as the space they fit into unlike the 1/2 inch wide ones on the betor. i'll see how it goes over the next few days. |
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Post by pilgrim on Sept 24, 2009 22:11:25 GMT
Sounds bad as the unit hasn't lasted.  I've the same Betor shock, as you'll have read before on this thread. It came in packaging for an exhaust (?) with no manufacturer's details or instructions. I've a 'C' spanner on field trials from work to adjust it.... I've set the suspension at high load as I ride mostly two up and with luggage now and again. It tops out when riding alone so I'll soften it down a turn. I don't know if you guaged the load for the suspension Flymo but it shouldn't bottom out. And what about maintenance? We all leave alone until too late , usually. I'll report back as necessary...... |
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Post by Flymo on Sept 25, 2009 5:33:07 GMT
on the Betor i adjusted the preload so that it didn't bottom out with 2 up and left it at that, maintanace the bushes are carp not easily took apart to regrease, the Hagon bushed are straight throught and push out so easily regreased as logn as your careful not to disturb the little o-rings i don't see a problem with that.
Flymo
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but i love her really, have took the center stand off for now, might get it welded back together some time.
My A*** the lower bush is worn and you can feel i knock now and again, been less than 12 months old i'm gonna sort out the receipt and try to get it repaired/replaced
should be a bit better anyway
