FAO. FJR Owners

[Pooh(c)]

I've just sent this message to FJR04

Hi FJR04

I've done some research since I purchased the FJR1300 Pannier reflectors. I know I should have done so before the event but life is easy with hignsight. It does appear that it is illegal to fit white reflecting panels to the rear of a vehicle in the UK. I have checked with the Police and various Government departments and they all come back with the same answer. It has to be red to the rear. I looked at the link www.realtimeindustries.com/ and saw an FJR with red panels.

I know I should have checked first but if the item has not shipped can I cancel or preferably can you supply a panel that reflects red instead of the white.

Thanks for your time

Steve

Let's see what he says

[m40man]

pooh said:

Have to say I don't think they are legal in the UK .

Having done some research and spoken to Inspector at local Traffic Office, Highways Agency and finally DOT

The consensus is that even though it is reflective light, it has to be red to the rear, with some exceptions like yellow for the number plate. White seems like a major no no.

All the more reason to fit 'em then, you rebel, you .

.......... it would make a great court case.....

............. M'lud, I was proceeding in a crim-catching direction when I noticed this miscreant biker. If he hadn't made the effort to make himself so conspicious & thereby a safer road-user, I wouldn't have seen him".

..... doesn't sound like a case many plods would want to bring!

[Tigger]

Like these you mean



Matt

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m40man said:

pooh said:

Have to say I don't think they are legal in the UK .

Having done some research and spoken to Inspector at local Traffic Office, Highways Agency and finally DOT

The consensus is that even though it is reflective light, it has to be red to the rear, with some exceptions like yellow for the number plate. White seems like a major no no.

All the more reason to fit 'em then, you rebel, you .

.......... it would make a great court case.....

............. M'lud, I was proceeding in a crim-catching direction when I noticed this miscreant biker. If he hadn't made the effort to make himself so conspicious & thereby a safer road-user, I wouldn't have seen him".

..... doesn't sound like a case many plods would want to bring!

May I add m'lud the micreant used to own a Fazer, I recommend we go easy on the lad as he has learned the error of his ways.

[ddfjr]

I did put red ones on the 01 (Tiggers FJR as above) but decided against it on the new one & decided to go for the Black & White reflective Decals.

Just placed an order for some Red Ones
The BLACK/White ones CAN however go on the FRONT panel of the Pannier though
Thats NOT Illegal and looks rather smart if I do say so myself ;D

[Pooh(c)]

Here's the reply from FJR04 ( Alex )

No problem Steve, your decals were on my desk to mail out this afternoon. I will change that for you, no big deal. I'm glad I could accommodate.

Alex Johnson

Good man

[ddfjr]

pooh said:

Here's the reply from FJR04 ( Alex )

No problem Steve, your decals were on my desk to mail out this afternoon. I will change that for you, no big deal. I'm glad I could accommodate.

Alex Johnson

Good man

Alex is a nice guy.
Glad you got it sorted Steve ;D

[teejayexc]

ghoti said:

tigger said:

(2) No vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp which is capable of showing any light to the rear, other than a red light, except-

(q) reflected light of ANY colour from retro reflective material (like the panels in question) OR a retro reflector designed primarily to reflect light to one or both sides of the vehicle and attached to or incorporated in any wheel or tyre of-


(i) a pedal cycle and any sidecar attached to it;


(ii) a solo motor bicycle or motor bicycle combination; or

So personally I think we Illegals are very legal but thats my own untrained in a court of law opinion


Matt

I did put

Hmm, as long as it is not a standard fit, then it does look like you can have any colour. Well spotted that Tigger (or should that be well striped that Tigger?).

here, but on re-reading, I think the or is between reflective material and reflector, meaning either have to be fitted to the wheel (as Pooh as now confirmed).

I'm changing it here so I don't look so foolish!

Too late!

Trev

[CD]

Just a thought... Dont police cars have blue and white chevron reflective panels on the rear. Those white areas can't be legal so is there any difference in law between them and the FJR stickers.

I dunno, but its a thought.

[ddfjr]

Well............................................

After I went to see our Local Traffic Officer, he looked into it for me, he has told me the following:

"I have checked with the D.O.T and the current legislation the Rear reflectors you have fitted to the Panniers of your FJR are NOT illegal"

"As they are fitted to your panniers they are classed as removable, they are not classed as a permanent fixture of the motorcycle and as such do not come under the lighting & reflective laws governing Motorcycles"

He also said they looked great and he would be getting some for his FJR

So there you go.....................
My BLACK Reflective Decals are NOT Illegal & are staying ON the Bike ;D

[maddogmcq]

Nice one DD. Thanks for that info. My black ones have just arrived, so they'll be fitted this very night.