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Post by nobby on Dec 14, 2008 11:51:16 GMT
My 93 Lreg 600 wont start  only get a clicking Thought it was the battery so got out my jump pack but still wouldnt start.Hmmm I thought I havent charged the jump pack for a while so that cant be helping,didnt have time to muck about so bump started down a slight incline and it fired up.went to where I was going and then tried starting...only got a click.When I was ready to come home again I did the same a bumped it and got home. Ordered a new battery and fitted this morning. Still onyl get a clicking,I checked the fuses , all ok. Seems the round unit by the cdi is clicking- starter soleniod?? its got hitachi and MS5D-401 written on it. I tried giving the starter a knock but still wont start. So Im thinking either starter soleniod,switch gear or poss side stand switch. any thoughts/ideas??? |
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Post by teejayexc on Dec 14, 2008 12:15:35 GMT
Possibly the starter motor brushes sticking or worn out. Take it apart and have a looksie.
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Post by rossitigerr on Dec 14, 2008 20:47:13 GMT
its yer starter solenoid i thinx . I get the same wi my 95 D6S but aint got round to fixin it yet as most times it will start on the button but if not i just kick into 2nd and roll it with clutch out then pull it in and she usually starts off the button again lol.
Drew
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Post by nobby on Dec 14, 2008 21:47:32 GMT
I tried to bump it today but it wasnt having any of it.
I will have another look wednesday when I have a day off.
Im hoping it might be the side stand switch or somthing silly.
If not then I think I will get another solenoid first and try that.
I may take starter off and have a look.
~does the starter come apart to check the bushes?
Are there any pics what a good set looks like?
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Post by teejayexc on Dec 14, 2008 21:58:51 GMT
I tried to bump it today but it wasnt having any of it. I will have another look wednesday when I have a day off. Im hoping it might be the side stand switch or somthing silly. If not then I think I will get another solenoid first and try that. I may take starter off and have a look. ~does the starter come apart to check the bushes? Are there any pics what a good set looks like? Starter motor comes apart to replace brushes, a new set from memory should be about 13mm in length, they sometimes just stick in their holders due to carbon deposits building up. Worth just taking out and checking/cleaning. Haynes manual has pics I think. HTH, Trev |
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Post by cam7777 on Dec 14, 2008 22:07:27 GMT
Yeah, thats if you can gets the screws out! I think they are made from toffee  |
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Post by neilmud Lord Protector on Dec 15, 2008 0:21:00 GMT
Tesco are doing 2for 1 on toffee so check them out if you have a problem ;D
Neil
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Post by amorti on Dec 15, 2008 1:41:06 GMT
If the starter is clicking it won't be any of the safety switches. To double-eliminate them anyway, next time you try to start the bike do it on the centre stand, with the bike in neutral (and the n-light must be on). This way you can be sure that's not the problem.
I stripped and cleaned the coils, start switch etc on my fireblade before realising the problem was due to the sidestand. Not the switch itself but a wire into it. Irritated me no end, that one.
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Post by gadget on Dec 15, 2008 18:23:22 GMT
I have exactly the same issue, and I charged the battery for 24 hours... high speed clicking from the right hand side panel area, anyone have an idea on the cost of a solenoid? My 93 Lreg 600 wont start only get a clicking Thought it was the battery so got out my jump pack but still wouldnt start.Hmmm I thought I havent charged the jump pack for a while so that cant be helping,didnt have time to muck about so bump started down a slight incline and it fired up.went to where I was going and then tried starting...only got a click.When I was ready to come home again I did the same a bumped it and got home. Ordered a new battery and fitted this morning. Still onyl get a clicking,I checked the fuses , all ok. Seems the round unit by the cdi is clicking- starter soleniod?? its got hitachi and MS5D-401 written on it. I tried giving the starter a knock but still wont start. So Im thinking either starter soleniod,switch gear or poss side stand switch. any thoughts/ideas??? |
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Post by nobby on Dec 15, 2008 18:52:28 GMT
Im getting one from ebay on the cheap.
Might not be totaly ideal but worth a go I thought.
I will try the centre stand idea too.
I will also check neutral switch behind sprocket cover.
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Post by sparky@TLB on Dec 16, 2008 1:15:37 GMT
hi nobby,gadget.
i had the same problem as you two have got.get some electrical contact cleaner from maplins about £4 a can .clean and spray the battery connections and the starter solenoid connectors i think their a 8mm nuts that hold the thick wire on to the solenoid.pull apart the thin wire connector be carefully with this connector and clean and spray it as well.put it all back together.
its corrosion of the metal that causes a dry joint at the battery and solenoid connections plus any other connections on the bike.spray the side stand switch as well.
nobby where in London are you?
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Post by nobby on Dec 16, 2008 22:37:03 GMT
Im north east london (borough of havering)
I have some electical spray so will try that too.
Battery terminals are new(came with new battery)
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Post by nobby on Dec 17, 2008 20:15:03 GMT
I tried the spray today but still nothing.
I will try the soleniod first I think.
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Post by nobby on Dec 20, 2008 19:22:41 GMT
changed starter soleniod today but it made no differance. Im now thinking starter  |
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Post by nobby on Dec 22, 2008 22:07:30 GMT
I phonned southern windings today so ask how much to re-con my starter.
they quoted £180.00 !!
Im going to be trying a second hand one I think.
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Post by rossitigerr on Dec 22, 2008 22:19:43 GMT
tried wiring???
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Post by nobby on Dec 24, 2008 23:18:52 GMT
I cant do wiring so have got another starter comming via ebay.
Will try that next.
If it is wiring I might aswell break the bike as I am hopless with wiring.
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Post by m40man on Dec 24, 2008 23:37:44 GMT
..... have got another starter comming via ebay. Will try that next. Good luck with it. If that doesn't sort it, let us know. I've recently had my share of wiring issues to deal with & I wouldn't object to drinking your tea & having a look at it myself if that might help. |
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Post by nobby on Dec 25, 2008 20:05:32 GMT
thats a kind offer.
I will get the second hand starter,fit it and see what happens first.
Then I may need your help.
Tea will be ready !!
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Post by nobby on Jan 1, 2009 14:03:59 GMT
Update !!!!!
Went out into garage today with second hand starter.
Within 10 mins was fitted and then hit the starter button............. it started !!
So prob fixed.
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Post by m40man on Jan 1, 2009 14:08:37 GMT
Within 10 mins was fitted and then hit the starter button............. it started !! So prob fixed. Excellent news, really pleased to hear this  . Now you can take your time to refurb the old one & flog it on Ebay to get some money back  . |
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Post by Flymo on Jan 1, 2009 14:16:41 GMT
yaay persaverance pays off in the end, Well done that man Flymo |
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Post by nobby on Jan 1, 2009 22:16:53 GMT
I was thinking of taking it apart one day and having a look inside.
southern windings quoted £180.00 to do it.So worth a go I think.
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Post by CD on Jan 5, 2009 23:11:25 GMT
It might only be the brushes
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Post by cuddles on Jan 20, 2009 19:36:28 GMT
same problem but no clicking sound when try to start oil light comes on with green light starts OK with the solenoid any ideas  |
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Post by CD on Jan 21, 2009 14:19:15 GMT
The lights always come on its a Yamaha feature. If the bike is in gear or the side stand is down the lights work, but no starty.
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Post by bighairymuppet on Jan 21, 2009 15:25:03 GMT
I was thinking of taking it apart one day and having a look inside. southern windings quoted £180.00 to do it.So worth a go I think. If its just the brushes its real easy to do / clean up. its just a coil motor in between two brushes. You can pickup brushes for cheap on ebay. cuddles check out rossitigers thread and t he few others bout starting hope they help. sorry as dont have time for full reply at the mo |
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Post by tpreece on Jan 23, 2010 11:35:24 GMT
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. Now you can take your time to refurb the old one & flog it on Ebay to get some money back 
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