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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2007 22:17:39 GMT
At that price for the FJR, I'd have the 1200GS. Different classes of bike aren't they? One an adventure tourer, one a sport tourer  I thought long and hard about a GS, but the climb on would have been too much for my pillion. The luggage space lost by the exhaust was a big factor. I also like smooth 4's rather than clanky boxers ;D I also think a lot of them are bought for the same reason as 4X4's, it's an image thing. |
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Post by Pool Boy on Apr 17, 2007 22:58:08 GMT
I've also got a fancy for the F800ST so I'd be interested in your views
Roger
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Post by CD on Apr 18, 2007 9:40:23 GMT
Absolutely its an image thing with the Beemer GS.  I think the opposite of a chromed up cruiser (which can also be nice if you like that sort of thing. With additional head lamps mounted on the crash frame they really do stand out in traffic. Drivers seem to scuttle out of the way which can't be too bad. Got to agree though about the luggage issue. The Adventure versions with square cases are wiiide. That width has to be a hassle in traffic. Heared good things about the new 800. A recent mag review (bike maybe?) thought it was actually better than the current VFR 800. The latter being too full of gismos. I like the way they use a third con-rod and nodding weight to cancel the parallel twin vibes. |
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Post by alpaholic on Apr 18, 2007 9:53:14 GMT
At that price for the FJR, I'd have the 1200GS. I'd have to say, although I'd think they were pretty much on a par as bikes but the resale alone would make the GS the obvious candidate. (Possibly the GS is slightly lacking in poke if that's important...) What's happened to FJRs? I'm pretty sure (certain) that in 2004 you could get them for a smidge over £7000. |
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Post by alpaholic on Apr 18, 2007 9:54:40 GMT
At that price for the FJR, I'd have the 1200GS. Different classes of bike aren't they? One an adventure tourer, one a sport tourer Is there a _real_ distinction? The GS is no real use off road and they're all bought to do the same kind of thing as the FJR. |
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Post by alpaholic on Apr 18, 2007 10:01:09 GMT
The Adventure versions with square cases are wiiide. That width has to be a hassle in traffic. Yes but, hardy cases are useful, you can also use them as seats and even two 36L Givi cases reduce filtering oppotunities dramatically. In fact the FJR's colour coded cases are just insane (I was going to add IMHO but it's not just MHO it's fact), cases lead a hard life, colour coded cases are nigh on unusable. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2007 10:18:46 GMT
It's horses for courses though Alpaholic. If you require a good touring machine with Pillion comfort and something SWMBO will find pleasing to the eye, then colour coded luggage on an FJR fits the bill.
Not sure it's for me though, too much of a short ass.
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Post by alpaholic on Apr 18, 2007 10:44:25 GMT
It's horses for courses though Alpaholic. If you require a good touring machine with Pillion comfort and something SWMBO will find pleasing to the eye, then colour coded luggage on an FJR fits the bill. Yeah, and I wasn't slagging of the FJR itself - top bikes IMHO and like the FJ1200 before it I reckon it's bought by people who actually ride. Cracking bike. I *was* slagging colour coded luggage off though! :-) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2007 11:00:01 GMT
It's horses for courses though Alpaholic. If you require a good touring machine with Pillion comfort and something SWMBO will find pleasing to the eye, then colour coded luggage on an FJR fits the bill. Yeah, and I wasn't slagging of the FJR itself - top bikes IMHO and like the FJ1200 before it I reckon it's bought by people who actually ride. Cracking bike. Nothing wrong with colour coded luggage if it persuades the wife to let me buy a new bike. I *was* slagging colour coded luggage off though! :-) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2007 11:01:45 GMT
something went wrong in that quote.
must have started typing too far up the quote.
CCL is OK to look at though, not sure it's always entirely practical.
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Post by HRHpenfold on Apr 18, 2007 15:35:02 GMT
I like the idea of the F800st, as its light, has a low seat option 790mm instead of the normal 820mm, looks to give real protection from the fairing, has a clean belt drive, just not sure its powerful enough ;D
the Fjr just seemed to big, bigger than the r1150rt that i sat on
wont be buying from dealers anyhow, throwing money away ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2007 15:36:18 GMT
Having given the luggage on the old divvy a few bashes which I reckon made me look like a cool RTW traveller, (not), I'm not looking forward to getting the first scars on the FJR cases. But with a few stickers to cover the scars it might not be so bad. |
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Post by Reaper on Apr 18, 2007 18:35:30 GMT
Gotto agree with the colour coding of the luggage on the FJR it does look the business but is a nightmare to live with.
Also Yamaha should have gone to Givi for there insperation as the Yamaha kit is twice as heavy holds 1/3rd less and costs double.
I have all 3 of the Yamaha kit but choose to use the Givi topbox instead as it`s far more practical for everyday use.
As for the Beemer GS you will either gell with its 2 cyclinder engine or hate it, you can guess wich camp I am in although the bike it`self I thought was top notch.
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Post by maddogmcq on Apr 18, 2007 21:07:34 GMT
I had colour-coded panniers on the CBF1000 and within a week(!) they had got allsorts of scuffs and marks (mainly from my right boot as I tried to swing it over the bike). Ended up putting that 3M clear sticky-stuff here there and everywhere. By comparison, the panniers on the BMW R1100 were dead easy to keep in good shape cos they were unpainted.
Anyway, Yamaha Chorley rang me today to break the bad news that delivery of the FJR won't take place this weekend. Looking more likely to be the back end of next week :-(
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Post by CD on Apr 18, 2007 22:51:34 GMT
I have seen adverts for a tough clear plastic film thats sold for protecting paintwork. I believe its flexible enough to stick onto compound curves. I cant remember the name or the prices but it might be worth using on the panniers.
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Post by maddogmcq on Apr 26, 2007 14:01:14 GMT
....only £10999 from m&s on Westgate Road Newcastle Boy, that takes me back Penfold! In 1980 I used to work in Newcastle and I bought my first ever new bike from "Kens Motorcycles" on Westgate Road. It was a Honda 250N SuperDream in black. Is the shop still there I wonder? PS: Still not got my FJR yet - due Saturday.  |
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Post by Ghoti on Apr 26, 2007 14:13:08 GMT
I have seen adverts for a tough clear plastic film thats sold for protecting paintwork. I believe its flexible enough to stick onto compound curves. I cant remember the name or the prices but it might be worth using on the panniers. ? |
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Post by CD on Apr 26, 2007 18:29:29 GMT
Looks like that's the stuff. My Divvie 900 will get some when I repaint the tank (quite a few chips).
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I think the opposite of a chromed up cruiser (which can also be nice if you like that sort of thing.
