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Post by malcky on Apr 7, 2007 11:35:07 GMT
as title, will be doing oil & filter change once i get breather kit from yamaha dealer, so wanted to know what oil folks are using just now.
cheers
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Post by iooi on Apr 7, 2007 12:16:11 GMT
Just put ,
Putoline Sport 4 semi synthetic in mine, but at £7.50 a ltr its the last time that goes in, next time it will be Halfords semi synthetic. Filter was a HiFlo one £6.00
How much was the breather kit ?
Just had the tank off mine to clean air box out, and cleaned the crankcase breather pipe which was a bit mayo inside.
Will be interesting to see if it stops leaking now.
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Post by apricot on Apr 7, 2007 12:37:11 GMT
Halfords Semi-synth in mine regularly for last two years. Does the job nicely and it's CHEEP (like the budgie). Its a subject thats caused a lot of debate on this (and other) sites. Some people don't rate Halfords oil, but then some people don't find Kylie Minogue attractive. Takes all sorts I suppose ;D Ady  |
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Post by HRHpenfold on Apr 7, 2007 12:58:07 GMT
I used to use Halfords 10w40 semi synth car oil, but the last oil i bought was AC delco 10w40 semi synth car oil, that i bought from the local motor factors for £14 for 5 litres, bikes seem to like it, never had clutch slip and allways use car oil ;D
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Post by iooi on Apr 7, 2007 13:42:32 GMT
This breather kit, is it just a plastic tube with some foam inside fitted into the breather pipe ? Because if it is i already have one....
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Post by malcky on Apr 7, 2007 14:23:41 GMT
to be honest i have no idea what the kit consists of, i just know i have a major dripping issue and have seen a few mentions of the part number listed so have ordered one which was only £15 from yamaha in kirkcaldy but seems to be taking ages to get it in stock (2 weeks and waiting.)
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Post by Reaper on Apr 7, 2007 19:57:42 GMT
Only the best Silkolene comp 4, but then again I did only pay £3 for 10ltrs ;D
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Post by malcky on Apr 8, 2007 11:44:46 GMT
anyone used the hein gericke oil, price seems ok at £11.99 for 4l bottle.
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Post by spike240 on Apr 8, 2007 19:55:35 GMT
Can U get me some of that Reaper?
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Post by CD on Apr 10, 2007 9:43:08 GMT
If the oil meets the JASO specs shown in the bike manual it will be ok.
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Post by max900 on Apr 10, 2007 16:46:13 GMT
i have been using the Hein Gericke oil deal for the last few years its around £25 for a 5 ltr bottle of oil an air filter and has not done my bike any harm (well nothing ive noticed yet  ) and my bike has done 10k miles so far(on this oil) |
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Post by welshy on Apr 11, 2007 11:00:41 GMT
I put some Halfords semi-synthetic motorcycle oil in my divvy and I could't put it into neutral anymore without first switching the engine off. I changed the oil for Silkolene semi-synthetic and the gear changes became as smooth as silk (at least as smooth as a divvy would allow). Cost me about £23 for 4 litres if I remember right.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2007 11:10:22 GMT
Always used Halfords semi synthetic until the last oil change. Accidentally put car oil in and it still seems to work OK, no clutch slip (must read the bottle next time). Normally do oil change every 2000 miles with filter change every 4000.
Not sure whether to keep using car oil or not though, it is a lot cheaper.
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Post by General Gman on Apr 11, 2007 11:17:34 GMT
I think car oil *may* be acceptable for low-powered bikes like Divvies, but I really wouldn't want to risk it in my bike.
I will be changing my oil soon, and as soon as I find Hein Gericke in Slough (rode past it once, never seen it again...) I'll be getting some of that Motul stuff from there.
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Post by CD on Apr 11, 2007 11:28:59 GMT
A friend of my brother's did 100,000 miles (yes really) on a Honda 600 Hornet using car engine oils, mostly Castrol GTX. No clutch problems and as far as I know the engine never needed any major work.
I'm beginning to think all this stuff about car oils messing up bike clutches is an urban myth like lead in petrol was supposed to protect valve seats. That was another con to get the public to keep using the stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2007 12:27:07 GMT
I think car oil *may* be acceptable for low-powered bikes like Divvies, but I really wouldn't want to risk it in my bike. I will be changing my oil soon, and as soon as I find Hein Gericke in Slough (rode past it once, never seen it again...) I'll be getting some of that Motul stuff from there. You do need to keep your bike in tip top condition though GM. Don't you have a 600 divvie to chase. |
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Post by welshy on Apr 11, 2007 12:34:01 GMT
GM, Hein Gericke in Slough is here, not far from Jnc 6 of the M4. There is also one on Oxford Road in Reading if you are ever passing.  |
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Post by General Gman on Apr 11, 2007 12:34:14 GMT
I think car oil *may* be acceptable for low-powered bikes like Divvies, but I really wouldn't want to risk it in my bike. I will be changing my oil soon, and as soon as I find Hein Gericke in Slough (rode past it once, never seen it again...) I'll be getting some of that Motul stuff from there. You do need to keep your bike in tip top condition though GM. Don't you have a 600 divvie to chase. ;D ;D I'll have to explore 4th and 5th gears one day...... |
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Post by alpaholic on Apr 11, 2007 13:04:18 GMT
I'm beginning to think all this stuff about car oils messing up bike clutches is an urban myth I came to that conclusion a year or so ago. Have been running both my bike and Louise's on car oil for about a year with no problems. (Which is hardly surprising since the oil meets identical specs.) My father has only ever used car oil. (and that's over 50 years of biking.) Frankly I can't really understand how the number of road wheels affects the required oil anyway. Many cars have wet clutches and/or very high performances engines, many bikes have low performance engines and dry clutches. So if there was a difference why not have wet clutch standards and dry clutch standards rather than identical standards and then just leave the oil retailer to indicate a "difference" in oils using their packaging? You can't prove a negative, of course. |
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Post by General Gman on Apr 11, 2007 13:10:24 GMT
GM, Hein Gericke in Slough is here, not far from Jnc 6 of the M4. There is also one on Oxford Road in Reading if you are ever passing. Cheers Welshy...... I get off at J6 to go home, so will go have a gander.I saw it when we went to view the flat, and haven't been able to find it since. Been to the one in Reading......but usually end up visiting MTC further up the Oxford road |
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Post by HRHpenfold on Apr 11, 2007 15:58:58 GMT
i stopped using motorcycle specific oils a while ago, but gurniman is right, i only have bikes that top out at 12500 rpm, not some high reving monsta like a R6 |
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Post by CD on Apr 14, 2007 14:10:51 GMT
Engine revs aren't the issue. A short stroke engine can rev like f**k but its piston speed can be the same (or less) than a long stroke engine going at 1/2 the revs. The only issue with bikes compared to cars is that bikes use the same oil in the engine and the gear box. Most cars have separate gear lube. The toughest engines to lubricate are turbo diesels. Low revs AND high torque = high bearing pressures. But Honda/Rover gear boxes used ordinary 20:50 in the gear box and they had no more wear problems than any other cars. If the engine maker says use JASO MA / API SG (Divvie 6/900), then choose an oil that meets the spec. At the monemt I'm using Castrol Actevo 5W40 scooter oil but it meets above spec and engine seems happy enough. Why use such weired stuff - I got a job lot from M&P for £1 a litre.  Who cares what its sold for - the spec is the same so the lubrication performance will be the same. |
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Post by jaspermcrundgren on Apr 15, 2007 0:08:37 GMT
Well then, I think Kylie is noa too bad lookin'
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) and my bike has done 10k miles so far(on this oil)
