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Post by dizzydivvy on Jan 21, 2008 12:34:40 GMT
Hi,
Just got my Diversion 600S (1999) last week, I have had a 1972 CD175 for the past 16 years, which is great for city riding. I needed something a bit bigger as I am doing a bit more motorway riding these days.
This club is a god-send as I get used to the new bike and I have found other people with similar questions to mine (wind noise levels caused by screen and vibrations at 4K RPM).
I am also experiencing some problems with shifting gears, it can be very hard to shift or I need to try a couple of times (mainly going up a gear). Anyone seen this before ?
Thanks
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Post by General Gman on Jan 21, 2008 12:49:20 GMT
First things to check are chain tension and make sure the gear linkage / foot control is clean and lubed.Failing that, if the oil is the colour of tar and the consistency of watery water, then changing it should help.
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Post by beeblemaster on Jan 21, 2008 13:06:22 GMT
check the clutch operation too  PS... do you have a pic of your CD175 |
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Post by DahDit on Jan 21, 2008 17:27:45 GMT
Beebs is getting horny......
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Post by beeblemaster on Jan 21, 2008 17:47:24 GMT
Beebs is getting horny...... My dad used to have a CD175 and it was the first bike I sat on - and it's the only bike I sat on that would have required lowering, but then again I was 5 at the time Wouldn't mind getting my hands on one to be honest just for nostalgic reasons of course. However, can't have any more bikes, my poor mechanic is working flat out with the 5 he currently has to maintain ;D |
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Post by Fiasco on Jan 21, 2008 20:35:47 GMT
I had a problem with my 600 where changing up gears was difficult, turned out that the gear foot lever needed moving round on the spline a tad to give a bit more play.
Can't remember which way it was, but I seem to remember that the lever wasn't returning down enough after each change to pick up the next gear.
Lack of play in the clutch lever could also be a factor, but normally causes problems with finding neutral
Good Luck
Dave ;D
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Post by bobh on Jan 21, 2008 22:32:05 GMT
Hi Dizzy,
I'd go along with the suggestions so far - clutch adjustment, gearchange pedal position and oil condition.
But it could also just be a question of technique if you're not used to a four with its minimal flywheel effect. Personally I find upward changes are sweetest if you just "fan" the clutch (i.e. only pull it in about half-way). The Divvy doesn't seem too happy with fully clutchless changes but it does seem to like a little bit of drive from the engine to keep the shafts in the box turning so the dogs drop in "on the fly". Plus it is quicker (and the engine revs don't drop too much) as you don't have to waste time pulling the lever all the way in. Also, if the clutch cable needs oiling it will be stiff and possible make the change more tricky.
If the gearchange pedal is adjusted too high it will make clean upward changes more difficult. It may not be necessary to turn it on its spline - there should be enough adjustment on the connecting link.
Good luck - Bob
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Post by CD on Jan 22, 2008 15:39:21 GMT
I also found the Diversion gearboxes (600 and 900) work far more smoothly if you blip the throttle on downchanges. I "missmatch" the clutch and throttle close-off so the revs blip then snick down a cog, drop the clutch and power on. It can be quicker to changing down than up with no clunk. Also avoid stopping in gear. The 'boxes snag up and wont change down without all sorts of careful clutch slipping usually with attendant clanging. Not good.
BTW. I get much smoother gearchanges on the 900 without earplugs and never have managed to do it really smoothly by feel alone (plugged up).
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Post by HRHpenfold on Jan 22, 2008 16:54:50 GMT
change the make of engine oil to 10w40 Halfords car oil, improves the gearchange no end |
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Post by dizzydivvy on Jan 22, 2008 21:24:54 GMT
Thanks for the tips, i'll give them a whirl. I don't actually have any photos of the CD175, i'll take some and post them when I get my camera back (out on loan right now). Also no Halford's oil where i live (Waterloo in Belgium).
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Post by HRHpenfold on Jan 23, 2008 16:09:59 GMT
Thanks for the tips, i'll give them a whirl. I don't actually have any photos of the CD175, i'll take some and post them when I get my camera back (out on loan right now). Also no Halford's oil where i live (Waterloo in Belgium). ok then a good quality semi synthetic car oil. |
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Post by ando7p on Feb 7, 2008 19:02:56 GMT
Hurm, don't like the sound of car oil. Even the average synth / semi-synth car oils are not specifically designed to withstand the strain that a bike gives it. I use a good quality fully synth which not only looks a lot better when due for a change, but also helps give smoother gear changes.
I have used car oils before, but find that they break down a lot quicker.
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Post by Fiasco on Feb 7, 2008 19:07:16 GMT
Sits down, puts coat on back of chair, opens popcorn  Dave ;D |
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Post by El Fuego on Feb 7, 2008 19:41:21 GMT
Creeps up behind Dave, shouts to give him a fright, popcorn goes everywhere. ;D
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Post by m40man on Feb 7, 2008 19:49:52 GMT
..I have used car oils before, but find that they break down a lot quicker. I refuse to get drawn into this. Why provide free entertainment for Fiasco ? |
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Post by teejayexc on Feb 7, 2008 20:00:41 GMT
Hurm, don't like the sound of car oil. Even the average synth / semi-synth car oils are not specifically designed to withstand the strain that a bike gives it. I use a good quality fully synth which not only looks a lot better when due for a change, but also helps give smoother gear changes. I have used car oils before, but find that they break down a lot quicker. Where's tedium when you need him? |
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Post by m40man on Feb 7, 2008 20:14:36 GMT
Trev, you damned fool. Shuttit.
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Post by ando7p on Feb 10, 2008 9:18:08 GMT
Guess you've had this debate before!! Ok, just change the oil regularly and be safe!
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