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Post by Beech on Aug 19, 2017 15:16:40 GMT
Hi guys,
Tried getting to work this morning but no dice. Bike wouldn't start.
Keys in the ignition and turned on, stand up, emergency button off and in neutral with clutch down and nothing.
The dash doesn't light up, the speedo doesn't whirr into life and the electric start certainly doesn't work.
It was just completely dead.
Any ideas on what the problem may be and how to resolve? I'm not very technically minded sadly (wish I was and will hopefully be getting better!). Sadly no homestart on the insurance!
2011 XJ6 Division F!
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Post by m40man on Aug 19, 2017 19:10:44 GMT
No dash error codes then  ? I had an XJ6 but never such a problem, so little help to you. But if it isn't just a blown main fuse, it might be worth you asking here: yamahaxj6.proboards.com/Hope that helps. |
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Post by GAv on Aug 19, 2017 20:51:40 GMT
Sure you didnt leave summit on and its drained the battery ( parking light) otherwise I would say M40 man is correct, main glass fuse or seperate bayonet ones, but then you would still get some power through if only one is blown, I would have thought.
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Post by Beech on Aug 19, 2017 21:17:04 GMT
Cheers for the input. Nope the dash just won't spark into life at all. *Literally* nothing happens when you turn the key.
I'm pretty knew to the bike scene but can batteries just go on for years then suddenly kick the bucket and die? It was working perfectly the day before when I rode it home from work is the only reason I ask.
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Post by m40man on Aug 19, 2017 21:53:57 GMT
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Post by spike240 on Aug 20, 2017 8:23:38 GMT
The answer to this is yes. But like others have said you need to make a few checks to see whether it is a duff battery, or something that has caused the battery to discharge. Are you sure you didn't leave owt switched on?
If it isn't a blown fuse, try charging the battery. Don't suppose you have a multimeter do you? You can measure the voltage in the battery with this.
ATB
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Post by bobh on Aug 21, 2017 9:07:24 GMT
Are you sure you didn't turn the key to 'P' when you locked the steering, thus leaving the parking lights on? I killed a fairly new battery that way some time ago.
Interestingly (for the nerds among us) on the newer Yams (well, MT-07 and 09, anyway) the 'P' position doesn't put the sidelights on, it just enables the hazards. Maybe they've been sued by someone in the former colonies for not protecting their customers from their own stupidity.
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Post by Beech on Aug 26, 2017 16:33:07 GMT
Thanks for all the input. Useful stuff. I managed to recharge the battery using a neighbours charger from something like 1985. Worked a treat and got it up and running for a few days before I could get it looked at by a pro. The battery didn't sound good though with some concerning bubbling and hissing sounds, beyond that which I thought normal! The shop ran their tests on the battery and the rectifier etc etc. told me the battery was completely ruined. Suppose its from a 6 year old bike having only run 1000 miles a year with the previous owner! The shop gave me a brand new battery for free and sent me on my way. Been working fine for a few days so will see how I go. More importantly they gave me some advice on my riding habits. Apparently the short journeys I do to and from the train station aren't doing my battery any good and advised a charger/optimiser/maintainer of sorts. So I bought myself an Oxford Oximiser 601. Discounted price too which was nice. I've just hooked it up today and it's currently sat doing its thing in my garage. Apparently the battery was already in need of some work as when I plugged it in the little yellow light was lit instead of the blue of green! I'm sure I'll post again in the future when something else f***s up! bobh: "Are you sure you didn't turn the key to 'P'" - I discussed this point with many people. I was 100% confident I did not. But the more people suggested it, the more I started to doubt myself. But as I'm an idiot and a total noob to biking I didn't actually realise the bike had a parking light function. So there is EVERY possibility that I was just another idiot who left their lights on  ... Im just hoping I wasn't. Even if I did though, at least it helped me identify a dodgy battery in the first place! |
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Post by bobh on Aug 26, 2017 21:04:45 GMT
Glad you got it sorted.
The shop is absolutely right - it needs a really good run of maybe 2-3 hours to fully charge a battery that's getting low. So an Oximiser is a good investment.
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Post by Beech on Sept 1, 2017 11:40:46 GMT
bobh (and others!)... Any ideas on this one..
So I've been using the Oximiser on and off since I got it and for some reason the little charging lights NEVER go above the 11.8v stage (if you look at the Oxford Oximiser 601 its the first light that isnt red!).
I've had it on charge over night before leaving a good 8 hours on charge yet the light never goes above that first stage and onto the 14.1v cycle/maintenance stage. The shop gave the bike the all clear when I picked it up, do you think that its most likely an issue with the Oximiser?
Cheers in advance!
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Post by Greendivvy Beeb on Sept 1, 2017 20:33:31 GMT
It may be because of the battery being new and not requiring the full charge mode, it's just maintaining a steady voltage. I don't know how Oximisers work, i've only got the ALdi special buy charger  |
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Post by bigfootisblurry on Sept 2, 2017 4:00:35 GMT
It may be because of the battery being new and not requiring the full charge mode, it's just maintaining a steady voltage. I don't know how Oximisers work, i've only got the ALdi special buy charger Better than my Halfords one which actively drains the battery if connected but turned off! |
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... Im just hoping I wasn't. Even if I did though, at least it helped me identify a dodgy battery in the first place!
