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Post by yam66 on Oct 21, 2015 22:58:41 GMT
Hi all,
read through some of the helpful comments on here so I'm hoping someone is going to be able to help me ! Bought my 900 a while ago and was very happy with it until the bike wouldn't start after stopping to check tyre pressures. I had trouble turning the key in the ignition and when it did there was a click from the solenoid. Rode the bike several times after this with no problems. Recently the key stopped turning at all in the ignition so I have purchased a new one. Connected up the switch and the solenoid clicked once and now nothing at all happens when I try to start the bike. All lights etc. work just nothing at the start switch. I have cleaned the stand switch checked wiring ( including the blue one mentioned in one previous comment ) so does anyone have any ideas ? Would really appreciate some help, thanks.
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Post by GAv on Oct 21, 2015 23:28:50 GMT
Usually it is the solenoid that is faulty if it just clicks. I am not absolutely sure whether or not it is pre engage on a divvy, but on old style bikes with separate solonoids and where the terminals are visible, you could bypass the solenoid by putting an insulated screwdriver (insulated handle)metal blade across the terminals, and if it turns over then there is the fault.
I had a similar struggle now you mention it to yours with the ignition switch, and a bit of jostling before the key would turn, but in the short time I owned my 900, once activated it would then start on the button. The new owner was aiming to change the ignition barrel.
Hope this helps
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Post by m40man on Oct 22, 2015 7:21:00 GMT
Hi Cliff, welcome  . The ignition switch swap & the non-starting may not be related. So before digging too deep, if you haven't already tried a different battery, do so. A battery will continue to serve lights etc long after it lacks the grunt to turn the motor. Your car battery & jump leads will be sufficient test. |
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Post by bev on Oct 22, 2015 7:38:39 GMT
Hi Cliff, welcome . The ignition switch swap & the non-starting may not be related. So before digging too deep, if you haven't already tried a different battery, do so. A battery will continue to serve lights etc long after it lacks the grunt to turn the motor. Your car battery & jump leads will be sufficient test. But can you have the car engine running or not ? I never do.
How do you know he has a car ?
Incidentally I'd also start by confirming the Battery isn't goosed, then clean the switch terminals.
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Post by satnav on Oct 22, 2015 10:03:15 GMT
My money's still on the Solenoid Surely, if it's clicking then the solenoid is working. That's what's clicking. My first course would be a different battery, or a booster pack. If that fails, bypass the solenoid and see if it turns the starter. |
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Post by GAv on Oct 22, 2015 10:27:00 GMT
You actually got that reply in with quote as I deleted it.
I didn't say it wasn't working,I said it may be faulty However acess to a volt meter is often a good thing in such cases.
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Post by m40man on Oct 22, 2015 11:28:48 GMT
But can you have the car engine running or not ? I never do. How do you know he has a car ? Educated guess  . Incidentally I'd also start by confirming the Battery isn't goosed Of course you would - you have a frugal nature akin to mine  . Car engine running? No - but I thought that was common knowledge. I don't even have the host engine running when jump starting one car from another, let alone jump-starting a bike. |
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Post by yam66 on Oct 22, 2015 11:33:17 GMT
Thanks every one for posting your suggestions I'll give it a go and let you know.
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Post by yam66 on Oct 22, 2015 11:58:58 GMT
Just a heads up by the way guys, yes I do have a car . Ok, so I tried the screw driver across the solenoid terminals and got a big fat nothing. The solenoid isn't clicking anymore either should I be taking that as a negative thing ? Will try another battery later and hope its just that. Thanks again. |
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Post by chris900divvy on Oct 22, 2015 12:03:58 GMT
If you don't have another battery to hand I'd take off the battery and give it a good long charge and see if it is actually going to charge fully and check the voltage before it goes back on. Recently replaced mine though and its so much better knowing you have a decent battery to rely on when cranking the bike especially now we're turning to winter. That said I think the last one was on there nigh on 4/5 years.
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Post by yam66 on Oct 22, 2015 12:17:26 GMT
Thanks Chris, I'll give it a go.
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Post by kirriepete on Oct 22, 2015 17:56:13 GMT
Definitely sounds like a dead accumulator (that's posh for battery). Mine did this to me a short while back, was working fine all day long following trainees, then when I went to fire her up to go home, nothing, nada, zip. Bumped OK (really easy to bumpstart for such a hefty machine) and when I got it home was showing proper charging, but any load on the battery at all sent the volts crashing down. New battery, all smiles.
On the sticky key front - you were pushing the key forwards before turning it? It's one of those little things Yam keys (and Suzu-keys) do after time....
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Post by yam66 on Oct 22, 2015 21:49:59 GMT
Thanks, going to try the battery today and I'll very happy if that's all it is ! |
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Post by bobh on Oct 23, 2015 20:12:28 GMT
On the sticky key front - you were pushing the key forwards before turning it? It's one of those little things Yam keys (and Suzu-keys) do after time.... Yes, my 900 was like that and the MT-03 has always been the same even at 1+ year-old. Slightly annoying but liveable-with. The other possiblity, if the battery is OK, is starter motor brushes. This is a common problem on 600's, but less so on the 900. |
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Post by yam66 on Oct 24, 2015 4:23:48 GMT
Ok everyone here's the update on the 900 D : Did the suggested screwdriver crossover on the solenoid and still nothing. However I noticed that the cut out switch at the clutch must have had a knock at some point as it wasn't screwed up correctly. Took this apart cleaned it and put back. I then notice a clicking at the cut off relay when I pull the clutch in which is the first noise I've had from the bike ! Not sure if this is a good thing though ?? I then cleaned the side stand switch again and although the bike still doesn't start the solenoid is now clicking. I tried jump starting the bike off my car but no luck. Any feed back greatly appreciated . Thanks
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Post by yam66 on Oct 24, 2015 22:38:11 GMT
Its the starter!......I think. Read up a few other comments on the internet and then with bike in gear and clutch out I rocked the bike backwards until I could hear the starter motor 'whirr'. With bike in neutral I pressed the start button and the bike turned over but only once. So I removed the starter motor and dismantled it as per Haynes instructions. Inside the unit there was thick 'soot',the brushes are pretty worn and also the smaller end of the shaft that connect to the brushes looks seriously worn ( very slim 'notches' ). Having said all of this is it likely that the solenoid is also stuffed ? and should I fix the starter or am I up for a new one? Thanks
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