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Post by gazzafield on May 20, 2015 9:26:56 GMT
So, my bike, after a 25 mile run gave up 1/4 mile from my work. Waiting to turn at traffic lights, lights change, cars move off, into gear I go and the bike stops. I go to start it again, next to nothing. Symptoms of a very flat battery.
Anyway, checked output of battery, 11.35v
Checked charging rate - zip, nada, nothing. So, haven't had time to check properly so just a general question. Are the reg/rec's an issue on the Diversion. I went through two on my pre-div XJ600 before getting an Electrex World one and mounting a CPU fan on it.
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Post by HRHpenfold on May 20, 2015 9:49:33 GMT
So, my bike, after a 25 mile run gave up 1/4 mile from my work. Waiting to turn at traffic lights, lights change, cars move off, into gear I go and the bike stops. I go to start it again, next to nothing. Symptoms of a very flat battery. Anyway, checked output of battery, 11.35v Checked charging rate - zip, nada, nothing. So, haven't had time to check properly so just a general question. Are the reg/rec's an issue on the Diversion. I went through two on my pre-div XJ600 before getting an Electrex World one and mounting a CPU fan on it. not usually, have you checked the output from the alternator, it should give out around 55v ac, if it is the reg/rec, there are cheap versions on ebay! |
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Post by gazzafield on May 22, 2015 21:28:30 GMT
Got my bike home today by just running it on the battery with no lights. Had a quick check of the RR and very odd it was too. The spade connections on the RR itself for the black wire and the white wire opposite it were very badly discoloured.
Having then had a look at the multiblock connector it was very strange. The spade fittings in the connector for the black wire and the white opposite it are burnt. So much so it has melted the plastic of the connector around them. I know I may be stabbing in the dark here but what does the panel think? RR goosed or alternator.
My Haynes manual gives me no clue how to test either. Just the resistance for the alternator. Anybody know how to do this?
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Post by CD on May 22, 2015 23:41:40 GMT
Switch off ignition and pull all fuses. If battery sparks when connected the reg/rectifier is probably shorted to earth. If battery does not spark with RR disconnected you know it's an RR fault.
However if the loom wiring has shorted to the frame this will overload the RR leading to burnt wiring.
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Post by HRHpenfold on May 23, 2015 9:22:01 GMT
The wires out of the stator should be 50 ish volts alternating current, so pull the plug and test the wires, they are usually 3 phase and thence 3 wires the same colour, yellow usually, If you get 50 ish volts, the stator is fine, It sounds like it needs the wiring in the plug replaced, corrosion is creating a high resistance, and heating up rather than passing the current to the reg/rect, If it is the spade type, plug, you can remove the pins, cut the wire back until you get bright copper wire, then add fresh wire and new spade terminals, you need the spade terminals with the tangs that hold it into the plug, you press the tang to remove the terminal, My favourite supplier for wire, and connectors and tools is www.autoelectricsupplies.co.ukBuy the proper tool and terminals and wire, do it properly, plugs should not be melting, so that needs sorting first, then you can check that everything works, the proper kit is an investment that will pay back many times! This is the proper crimp terminal tool www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/474/category/87These are the terminals with the tang www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/825/category/2 |
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Post by gazzafield on May 25, 2015 17:04:31 GMT
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I will be getting the right spade fittings etc. Had to do this kind of thing to a few bikes in the past. So, to keep myself right, as it's been years since I had to this sort of thing on old Suzukis.
To check the stator it's a case of unplug stator connector, start the bike, set multimeter to AC, black wire to black earth wire in connector and test output of three white wires with red probe - yes?
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Post by HRHpenfold on May 25, 2015 17:51:55 GMT
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I will be getting the right spade fittings etc. Had to do this kind of thing to a few bikes in the past. So, to keep myself right, as it's been years since I had to this sort of thing on old Suzukis. To check the stator it's a case of unplug stator connector, start the bike, set multimeter to AC, black wire to black earth wire in connector and test output of three white wires with red probe - yes? Yes that is correct! |
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Post by gazzafield on Jun 1, 2015 9:08:50 GMT
So, alternator checked out all good. Had all the bits to redo the mutliblock connector to the rectifier but it had been so "toasted" with burning it started to fall apart as it had turned so brittle, so that was scrap. Cleaned up the connectors on the rectifier and connected the wires to it with individual insulated female spade fittings. All was well! taped it all up to avoid future mishap - job done.
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Post by gazzafield on Jun 4, 2015 9:20:37 GMT
Then an oil cooler pipe let go. Cock.
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