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Post by swigger on May 1, 2015 17:11:23 GMT
Hi Folks,
In need of a bit of advice for my 600 divvy.
I started the bike as usual in work tonight not a problem.
Got to my friends house un packed all my gear and then went back out to drive to the back of the house to put it in the garage.
Key goes in, lights come on, push starter button nothing, does not even turn over the starter motor.
it is almost as if the bike thinks it is in gear with the side stand down.
I have checked all the fuses (fine), tried various things to coax it into starting but nothing.
Every single light works, the horn, the indicators, hazards, neutral switch but just nothing when you push the starter button.
You can hear an audible click when you turn it on and a click when you put it in gear or take it out of gear or pull in the clutch lever.
Any thoughts on this one, got me stumped.
Cheers Andy G |
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Post by bobh on May 1, 2015 17:18:27 GMT
When something very similar happened to me (in the middle of Oxford) it turned out to be a worn-out brush in the starter motor - quite a common occurrence on the 600. Strangely, it was only one brush that had worn, though I guess it's possible the other had already been replaced by a previous owner.
New brushes are available from Wemoto, though not cheap. You need a reasonably heavy-duty soldering iron to install them.
I did manage to bump-start it, thank goodness.
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Post by teejayexc on May 1, 2015 17:43:13 GMT
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Post by swigger on May 1, 2015 19:04:00 GMT
Cheers guys, sadly don't have any tools with me, however when the breakdown guy comes out on Tuesday I will get him to check all those things. I will let you know how it turns out.
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Post by m40man on May 1, 2015 19:23:20 GMT
Cheers guys, sadly don't have any tools with me, however when the breakdown guy comes out on Tuesday I will get him to check all those things. I will let you know how it turns out. Whilst you're waiting for him, maybe stick the battery on charge just in case it's beginning to fail to hold A charge. If a charge does the trick, you know a new battery will probably see you right. |
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Post by swigger on May 2, 2015 8:07:10 GMT
Update: Just been out to try the bike again (in the vain hope that it had magically fixed itself) and I noticed that when you hit the kill switch, put it in gear and pull the clutch in or move the side stand there is an audible click from what I assume is the solenoid under the offside side panel as if it is telling the bike "push the button and i'll start".
It just seems that no matter what the bike is in kill switch on mode.
Shame I don't have any tools as I could have the side panel off and have a go at it myself (mental note-take tools when you go away!)-have to hope when breakdown come out on Tuesday that when they get the side panel off it is as described previously some duff wiring that can be sorted.
One thing I wanted to ask, is it a good idea to short the solenoid to see if it will start that way or should I leave it to the dealer?. |
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Post by m40man on May 2, 2015 8:21:02 GMT
You have a PM.
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Post by swigger on May 3, 2015 7:15:07 GMT
Found a screwdriver & allen key that fitted, took off the side panel and corrosion all over the terminals and it looks as if at least two wires broken, easy fix for the breakdown guy.
P.S. I am now an expert in "blue wire syndrome"  |
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Post by CD on May 3, 2015 7:34:34 GMT
The wiring suffers with salt & age. You'll need to check every connector. The 900 (and maybe the 600) has an inline block under petrol tank. It's a factory requirement that can be completely cut out with wires spliced across. Solder, heat shrink sleeves & self amalgamating tape required.
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Post by swigger on May 4, 2015 10:23:12 GMT
I had a flash of genius this morning and thought "lets give it a try".
Found a small self tapping screw so stripped back some of the wire, cleaned out the worst of the crud, pushed the wire back in and screwed in the self tapper.
Did not think this would work but turned on the ignition, opened the choke and gingerly pushed the starter button and BINGO! the bike started, at least I can now get the bike home and will not have to wait for the breakdown company tomorrow.
I can now hopefully effect a much better repair with some better wiring, bullet connectors and heat shrink. |
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Post by m40man on May 4, 2015 11:31:38 GMT
cleaned out the worst of the crud, pushed the wire back in and screwed in the self tapper. That's the spirit, nice one . Glad you have a temporary solution . |
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Post by bobh on May 4, 2015 20:24:42 GMT
Glad you have a temporary solution . There's nothing so permanent as a temporary solution.  |
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Post by GAv on May 4, 2015 21:55:01 GMT
Never was something so true said in jest, |
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