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Post by chris on Dec 21, 2014 8:54:02 GMT
Hi guys need some help, riding home last night all was well, the. Noticed the clock lights had dimmed some what any way plodded on glanced at clocks which had dimned a bit more as i got to my humble abode she died and wouldnt start on the button.
When i press start button the solanoide siunds like it's having a fit, but starter dont spin.
I'm gonna try bumping it and see if she starts that way,
Any advice or ideas would be great
Thanks in advance
Chris
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Post by m40man on Dec 21, 2014 10:02:03 GMT
Initial thoughts - it's died because of a flattened battery - cause by a failure in the charging circuit, likely because of a breakdown in the wiring.
So I'd charge the battery an hour or so to check if it starts. If it does, you're probably looking to first check the connector (especially the blue wire ) under the offside rear plastics.
AKA The blue wire syndrome!
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Post by HRHpenfold on Dec 21, 2014 10:31:58 GMT
Initial thoughts - it's died because of a flattened battery - cause by a failure in the charging circuit, likely because of a breakdown in the wiring. So I'd charge the battery an hour or so to check if it starts. If it does, you're probably looking to first check the connector (especially the blue wire ) under the offside rear plastics. AKA The blue wire syndrome! What he said! |
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Post by chris on Dec 21, 2014 11:46:27 GMT
Cool i'll start there and see what happens, thanks guys
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Post by chris on Dec 21, 2014 13:39:46 GMT
Ok just went to the bike and there is hope, it turned over al eit with what seemed a fairly flat battery, i have bumped it and it ran, checked charging and seems ok, but just had a thought should the charging rate hit 14 - 14.5 with lights off?
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Post by crickleymal on Dec 21, 2014 19:41:00 GMT
Yes it should.
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Post by chris on Dec 21, 2014 22:08:42 GMT
Ok so looks like it's not charging properly, could this be the cause?
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Post by grumps on Dec 22, 2014 10:40:28 GMT
Sounds to me like the battery ran flat but recovered enough to run the ignition for a while.
Have you checked battery terminals? If you are getting 14v when engine running it may be that the terminals are not getting that voltage to the battery
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Post by chris on Dec 22, 2014 12:30:42 GMT
Terminals where tight but was only hitting 13.66, did wonder if the battery might be on it's way
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Post by middlers on Mar 11, 2015 12:06:23 GMT
Hi, new to this forum and also new to motorcycling after 30yr absence. Have bought a Yamaha Diversion XJ900s. I have no technical knowledge whatsoever and need to charge the battery, wherever that is(!). Could someone direct me to a step by step guide to charging my battery please? Many thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 13:26:43 GMT
Maybe it would be best if you had someone to show you the job!
Where are you?
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Post by middlers on Mar 12, 2015 10:35:41 GMT
True. Live in Lincoln. Thought someone would have put these routine maintenance tasks online somewhere but unable to locate them Youtube would have been fantastic. Thank you.
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Post by satnav on Mar 12, 2015 23:55:24 GMT
Hi Chris.
This is a process of elimination. Firstly I would charge the battery and then leave it to see if it holds its charge. If not probably this is the problem.
Any auto electrician can also check it for you.
If the battery proves ok then I would look at the state of the wiring and connectors in the charging circuit paying particular attention to earth leads. (this really only applies to old or high mileage bikes, but for the time it takes still worth doing).
I would look at the alternator, starting at the bits that can wear out or break such as the the brushes, brush springs and the slip rings.
Failing that an auto electrician can test the stator and the rectifiers to see if those parts are breaking down under load.
Quick, but not exhaustive guide, to flat battery fault finding.
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Post by satnav on Mar 13, 2015 7:48:09 GMT
Actually, just had a bit more of a think about your description of how everything died.
As it all started going dim whilst you were still riding, I suspect that the battery is ok, and it is not charging as it should be.
The reason I say this is that even with a duff battery the bike should run ok if the alternator is changing ok.
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Post by mikeyd600 on Mar 27, 2015 21:20:22 GMT
 dunno if that worked, but i bet my bottom dollar its your rectifier, i had the same problem on a previous bike i had. |
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Post by CD on Mar 28, 2015 8:07:22 GMT
The charging circuit is connected directly to battery via the starter solenoid. Also check rectifier output to earth. If it's gone short circuit the battery might be cooked.
If those wires are ok run engine and measure charging volts with lights on and off. It should show 13.8V to 14V.
If volts are high (failed voltage regulator) the battery will be cooked to death.
If low (alternator coils or rectifier) battery gradually goes flat.
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Post by chris on May 10, 2015 14:17:24 GMT
Hi guys, I have been working on this but to be honest i'm no closer, I have since found that the reg/rec was kinda duff previous charge was 13 odd volts new one 14.7 volts so that sorted that out, every thing else seems to be spot on, bike has been fine for months but earlier today it died outright, absolutely no power what so ever no lights nothing, I walked it home (2 min walk so not too bad) popped the opti-mate on it let it charge fully and bang fired up straight away.
Heeeelllllppppp
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Post by Tigger on May 10, 2015 16:02:08 GMT
Sounds like earthing issues to me. Check the multi plugs under the tank. They are prone to corrosion.
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