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Post by m40man on Jul 30, 2014 18:13:32 GMT
I'm optimistically posting this in Tips & Tricks, hopeful that help is forthcoming .....
I've finally found a centre stand for my CB750. After straightening the mullered frame mounts, got it fitted.
But I can't get the damned spring on, so it currently just hangs flacid, dragging along the ground. I have to tie it up.
So - tips for getting that spring on please.
I've tried the coins in the spring trick - but it's a close coiled spring & I can only get 5p's in & try as I might, not enough to expand it enough.
On one of my Divvy 6's I recall I used rope attached to the back wheel spoke & the spring end, pushing the bike along & so stretching the spring until it reached the lug on the stand. On the CB, I can't get the end of the spring near enough to the stand lug, try as I might.
So I'm open to any other ideas (short of getting bigger muscles!).
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Post by HRHpenfold on Jul 30, 2014 18:36:03 GMT
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Post by teejayexc on Jul 30, 2014 21:15:19 GMT
Reminds me of Moffat when you stepped out of the shower  Can you fasten one end of the spring in a vice and hang a weight on t'other end, you may be able to get up to a pound coin in then, mind ewe, I thought you rich sufferners only dealt in the folding stuff. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 21:28:40 GMT
I'm assuming you have the stand up before trying to fit it.  |
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Post by neilmud Lord Protector on Jul 31, 2014 0:09:46 GMT
I'm assuming you have the stand up before trying to fit it. Of course he has to stand up to fit it hes only a short arse  Neil |
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Post by CD on Jul 31, 2014 6:55:06 GMT
Fit spring to stand before putting pivot pin/pins in place. Perhaps put a pin in one side & use a big Philips screwdriver through other side to lever it in line.
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Post by crickleymal on Jul 31, 2014 7:24:41 GMT
Fit spring to stand before putting pivot pin/pins in place. Perhaps put a pin in one side & use a big Philips screwdriver through other side to lever it in line. That's the way I would do it too. |
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Post by m40man on Jul 31, 2014 9:21:56 GMT
Fit spring to stand before putting pivot pin/pins in place. Perhaps put a pin in one side & use a big Philips screwdriver through other side to lever it in line. That's the way I would do it too. A fair idea, but the frame mounts are suitably mullered (I've bent them back ok-ish enough to mount the pivot but only with a bit of effort, allignment isn't great) that I think that's impractical on this bike. Last effort was my thickest cable-tie, emulating on one those fangled spring pullers Ian suggested. Lad on bike, holding the brakes, me putting my awesome strength into it, it snapped. So I'll try one or two of the other suggestions. Will report back on the successful method found as I don't want to spend a few quid hang around waiting for a puller to arrive (which look a bit weedy anyway, given the tension on this damned spring). |
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Post by showaddydadito on Jul 31, 2014 9:24:39 GMT
Fit spring to stand before putting pivot pin/pins in place. Perhaps put a pin in one side & use a big Philips screwdriver through other side to lever it in line. That's what I did. All the talk of sticking washers in the spring was irrelevant because my spring is enclosed in a section of rubber hose to keep the grease on. |
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Post by m40man on Jul 31, 2014 11:27:32 GMT
That's what I did. All the talk of sticking washers in the spring was irrelevant because my spring is enclosed in a section of rubber hose to keep the grease on. Same here, but right next to my angle grinder & big hammer, I found a sharp knife  . |
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Post by showaddydadito on Jul 31, 2014 11:48:41 GMT
That's what I did. All the talk of sticking washers in the spring was irrelevant because my spring is enclosed in a section of rubber hose to keep the grease on. Same here, but right next to my angle grinder & big hammer, I found a sharp knife . Inside the rubber hose I found a greased spring with no rust on it. |
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Post by HRHpenfold on Jul 31, 2014 11:51:40 GMT
That's the way I would do it too. A fair idea, but the frame mounts are suitably mullered (I've bent them back ok-ish enough to mount the pivot but only with a bit of effort, allignment isn't great) that I think that's impractical on this bike. Last effort was my thickest cable-tie, emulating on one those fangled spring pullers Ian suggested. Lad on bike, holding the brakes, me putting my awesome strength into it, it snapped. So I'll try one or two of the other suggestions. Will report back on the successful method found as I don't want to spend a few quid hang around waiting for a puller to arrive (which look a bit weedy anyway, given the tension on this damned spring). you need to use more than one cable tie! but you could use a jubilee clip instead! those weedy tools are weedy, but quite up to putting the springs on, they are hardened steel |
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Post by m40man on Jul 31, 2014 12:13:22 GMT
Inside the rubber hose I found a greased spring with no rust on it. Inside mine I found a rusty 33 year old spring  You need to use more than one cable tie! Moneybags  ! |
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Post by crickleymal on Jul 31, 2014 12:59:25 GMT
My spring is so covered in grease and other crud from the chain that it's perfectly preserved, a bit like me.
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Post by showaddydadito on Jul 31, 2014 14:50:33 GMT
My spring is so covered in grease and other crud from the chain that it's perfectly preserved, a bit like me.  |
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Post by m40man on Jul 31, 2014 16:56:09 GMT
The tool used to pull tent pegs looks similar to a spring tool! Of all the suggestions, I couldn't find a local spring puller, but in the 99p shop there was a tent peg remover with a bag of pegs. Naturally, the handle broke almost immediately but bending the end to hook it onto a bike handle that called out to me from the shed, & the job's done  . .......... of course the above only became possible when I turned the spring around the right way, one end being longer at the hook end, so it could actually fit over the stub on the stand |
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Post by teejayexc on Jul 31, 2014 17:57:32 GMT
.......... of course the above only became possible when I turned the spring around the right way, one end being longer at the hook end, so it could actually fit over the stub on the stand Twit |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 21:15:00 GMT
Amateur. |
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Post by showaddydadito on Aug 1, 2014 8:50:17 GMT
The tool used to pull tent pegs looks similar to a spring tool! Of all the suggestions, I couldn't find a local spring puller, but in the 99p shop there was a tent peg remover with a bag of pegs. Naturally, the handle broke almost immediately but bending the end to hook it onto a bike handle that called out to me from the shed, & the job's done . .......... of course the above only became possible when I turned the spring around the right way, one end being longer at the hook end, so it could actually fit over the stub on the stand Remember - If it ain't broke, measure twice, cut once, and it will be. |
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Post by CD on Aug 3, 2014 14:32:00 GMT
I was going to suggest a key ring through the spring loop as something to hook onto.
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