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Post by peterbonneville on Aug 30, 2013 22:15:07 GMT
Hi guys. just want to say hello, as I've just joined the forum after about 15 yrs away from bikes.
I bought a new YBRr 125 last year to tow behind my motorhome whilst touring. I like riding it for a poodle about with my wife on the back , but it's not very exciting as I was used to riding much bigger bikes before.
After riding the YBR I've got the bug again and have bought a 1992 xj600s diversion in red with 32k on the clock. It's not bad, but the exhaust is shot and been welded.
My first question is, where's the best place and what make to get for a new one, regarding looks, sound, and most importantly ease of fitting.
Thanks
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Post by speighty on Aug 30, 2013 23:08:34 GMT
hi Peter,
Sandy Bike spares
Wemoto
Spring to mind ...
Im sure they'll be a few more options along shortly ;-)
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Post by peterbonneville on Aug 30, 2013 23:25:56 GMT
Thanks for that, the sandy ones look quite nice.
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Post by Stooby on Sept 1, 2013 16:02:58 GMT
Avoid cheap ebay parts, especially from the "Chinese Motorcycle Company". They're absolute rubbish.
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Post by HRHpenfold on Sept 1, 2013 16:19:00 GMT
Hi guys. just want to say hello, as I've just joined the forum after about 15 yrs away from bikes. I bought a new YBRr 125 last year to tow behind my motorhome whilst touring. I like riding it for a poodle about with my wife on the back , but it's not very exciting as I was used to riding much bigger bikes before. After riding the YBR I've got the bug again and have bought a 1992 xj600s diversion in red with 32k on the clock. It's not bad, but the exhaust is shot and been welded. My first question is, where's the best place and what make to get for a new one, regarding looks, sound, and most importantly ease of fitting. Thanks Welcome back, you were sorely missed, where abouts are you at? |
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Post by peterbonneville on Sept 1, 2013 19:52:45 GMT
Thanks, I am at Swineshead, near Boston, Linc's.
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Post by neilmud Lord Protector on Sept 2, 2013 0:14:58 GMT
Thanks, I am at Swineshead, near Boston, Linc's. Oh god another ditch dweller  Welcome old Peter I must say if your avatar is you we have some older gits on here  Neil |
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Post by showaddydadito on Sept 2, 2013 7:08:11 GMT
Welcome to the forum OldPeter.
All human life is here - we have mechanical experts, jokers, banterers and paranoiacs, people with hearts of gold, people with heart bypasses, people with sense-of-humour bypasses . . . .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 8:06:23 GMT
Thanks, I am at Swineshead, near Boston, Linc's. Oh god another ditch dweller Welcome old Peter I must say if your avatar is you we have some older gits on here Neil How do you know the photo wasn't taken 30 years ago ?  Welcome to the forum oldpeter. |
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Post by showaddydadito on Sept 2, 2013 8:20:50 GMT
It'd still be true
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 9:30:46 GMT
You could well be correct. The old codger, Gordy and Adolf Jonny could probably still give him a few years.  Trev just looks like he could. |
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Post by peterbonneville on Sept 2, 2013 22:59:25 GMT
Thanks for the warm welcome guys.
I'm 67 and the pic' was taken about 6 yrs ago in Austria. I have ordered the 4-2 exhaust from sandy spares as it looks pretty good and a hell of a lot cheaper than the motad. Have also bought a d.i.d chain/sprocket kit as there was a tight spot in the chain. I know this seems to be a contentious issue, but is it o/k to use semi synthetic car oil in the divi?. I've always used it in previous bikes.
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Post by neilmud Lord Protector on Sept 2, 2013 23:55:01 GMT
I know this seems to be a contentious issue, but is it o/k to use semi synthetic car oil in the divi?. I've always used it in previous bikes. Oh no another can of worms thread  I think the consensus is semi is OK but not worth it on the divi many just use car oil, I would use cheap (halfords) bike oil. Hope this helps Now will get shot down in flames for even suggesting any of the above  Neil BTW just reread your thread "semi synthetic car oil" is usually a no no as it can cause the wet clutch problems due to additives. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 5:30:58 GMT
Thanks, I am at Swineshead, near Boston, Linc's. Hurray big up the lincolnshire massive Oldpeter my bike was running on fully synthetic oil when I got it. Changed it to some clean mineral 10/40 I've had in a 5 gallon barrel for about 15 years. Runs a bit quiter now except for a noisey tappet  Keep ya oil level at max mark tho'. Mine was just alittle below and the oil light kept coming on  . Frightening, but after reading a thread on here turns out it's an oil low light not a low pressure light (phew) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 6:52:45 GMT
Some car oils will make the clutch slip.
I have used mineral car oil in the D9 with no problem, though I normally use semi synth bike oil. I always use semi synth bike oil in the Bandit.
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Post by bobh on Sept 3, 2013 8:47:24 GMT
I often used Halfords semi-synth car oil in my D6's, without any clutch slip or other problems.
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Post by m40man on Sept 3, 2013 9:03:59 GMT
I often used Halfords semi-synth car oil in my D6's, without any clutch slip or other problems. Similarly, I regularly used basic 10w/40 car oil in mine without any clutch slip. Whether bike oil actually is any better I'm not sure - though since these days I can afford it, I've allowed myself to get sucked into using it. I blame it on peer pressure! |
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Post by rowlf on Sept 3, 2013 9:43:42 GMT
Is that a spelling mistake ?  Beer causes me all sorts of problems, memory loss and er  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 10:01:59 GMT
I always use bike specific oil. My nephew works for castrol in Aberdeen and he is a specialist in oil blending technology. He says that car oil is not designed to be used in a gearbox and bike oil contains the correct polymers to deal with the demands. The effect of using an incorrect oil will not be apparent immediately.
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Post by m40man on Sept 3, 2013 10:43:53 GMT
He says that car oil is not designed to be used in a gearbox and bike oil contains the correct polymers to deal with the demands. The effect of using an incorrect oil will not be apparent immediately. I've read that too - but wonder if it's true. Even MCN, with it's eye on the advertisers, dispute it after their own tests. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 11:10:26 GMT
He says that car oil is not designed to be used in a gearbox and bike oil contains the correct polymers to deal with the demands. The effect of using an incorrect oil will not be apparent immediately. I've read that too - but wonder if it's true. Even MCN, with it's eye on the advertisers, dispute it after their own tests. Do you think I could get away with engine oil in the car gearbox ? |
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Post by m40man on Sept 3, 2013 11:18:25 GMT
I've read that too - but wonder if it's true. Even MCN, with it's eye on the advertisers, dispute it after their own tests. Do you think I could get away with engine oil in the car gearbox ? Dunno - haven't considered that myself. You seem content with car engine oil in a D9 though, so who knows  ? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 11:32:40 GMT
Do you think I could get away with engine oil in the car gearbox ? Dunno - haven't considered that myself. You seem content with car engine oil in a D9 though, so who knows ? I was forced into that move when the Oil light started coming on during a trip through Ft William, actually started flickering on the climb away from the green Welly heading for Glencoe, I'm sure you know it. There wasn't bike oil available in Ft Bill. Didn't appear to cause a problem for the short time it was in, though I can't say it wouldn't have had an effect long term if it had been left in. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 11:57:14 GMT
Car gearboxes use EP80/90 oil.
Who knows the long term effects, some bikes have weak gearboxes to start with.
My car is has a TDI PD engine and requires a special (expensive) grade of oil designed for that particular engine. I've always bought the correct oil and I have covered >172k and the engine still sounds new, what would it have been like if I put cheap oil in? who knows....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 12:10:13 GMT
Car gearboxes use EP80/90 oil. Who knows the long term effects, some bikes have weak gearboxes to start with. My car is has a TDI PD engine and requires a special (expensive) grade of oil designed for that particular engine. I've always bought the correct oil and I have covered >172k and the engine still sounds new, what would it have been like if I put cheap oil in? who knows.... Having had an MG ZS with automatic gearbox I can confirm that the gearbox bearings will fall to bits if the incorrect grade of oil is used. Mine had been filled prior to me buying it with standard Auto gearbox oil. |
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Post by bobh on Sept 4, 2013 16:12:50 GMT
On the other hand, there are still plenty of old-style Mini's running around with engine oil in the gearbox.
Most of the old BL gear-in-sump cars have long gone to the graveyard, but I suspect in most cases it wasn't because the gears wore out.
I was cornered a while ago in the shop formerly known as George White's by an old boy who used to be a courier. He still has his old Blackbird with 300K+ miles on the clock. When he was dispatching he used cheap Carplan car oil and changed it every 3-4,000 miles (which was every week when he was busy). Though now he doesn't use the bike so much he pampers it with better quality stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 19:14:07 GMT
When he was dispatching he used cheap Carplan car oil and changed it every 3-4,000 miles (which was every week when he was busy). Though now he doesn't use the bike so much He probably can't get it into gear now  |
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Post by peterbonneville on Sept 4, 2013 20:35:30 GMT
My new exhaust system came yesterday, from sandy bike parts. I got the 4 into 2 system. I did toy with a 4 into 1, but thought it was worth the extra hundred pounds for a better balanced look to the bike. Shame it cost me two thirds of what I paid for it a week ago. I paid £450 and to get it back to how it should be will bring it up to around a grand what with new zorst chain and cogs, at least the tyres are very good. I know I could have got a much later bike for that, and maybe I should have done. But I would probably have had to spend money on that too, as these old girls are getting on a bit. Mine's a '92 D6 by the way, with 32k on the clock. Her indoors say's I can't fit it until I've finished the kitchen re-furb. Right...............now where's that router.  |
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Post by HRHpenfold on Sept 4, 2013 22:30:56 GMT
I always use bike specific oil. My nephew works for castrol in Aberdeen and he is a specialist in oil blending technology. He says that car oil is not designed to be used in a gearbox and bike oil contains the correct polymers to deal with the demands. The effect of using an incorrect oil will not be apparent immediately. Some cars specify engine oil for the gearboxes, To be fair most modern oils are far to good to be putting it in motorcycles, oils that can go between services of 30k miles and have to have specific amounts of additives in order not to upset the sensors that determine when a change should take place, and not turn to carbon when over heated in turbo chargers. Not suitable for motorcycle gearboxes, there are plenty of places in car engines where oil gets a much harder life, bike gearboxes are completely different types of gearboxes to cars, they are constant mesh gearboxes, so there are no meshing and un meshing of gears, it's no more stressful than putting the oil through the oil pump, So the real questin is ' is the car oil I plan on using to good to use in a motorcycle', which will cause problems with my clutch, For your car, then yes you need to use the specified oil if its required, Some new bikes require enhanced oil, guzzi's require a high zinc content 10/60 as do some Ducati's, To be fair motorcycle oils are a fairly new thing, back in the day bikes used car oils exclusively, and by that I mean 20/50 in two stroke gearboxes as well as 80's super bikes!! For the oil produces they are great, produce oils without adding some expensive additives, then charge a premium for it, result! |
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Post by peterbonneville on Sept 4, 2013 22:53:30 GMT
That sounds about right to me. People are getting too paranoid in my view. I'll stick to my original intention of putting in semi-synthetic 20/40.
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. Frightening, but after reading a thread on here turns out it's an oil low light not a low pressure light (phew)
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