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Post by zoro on Nov 25, 2008 18:58:42 GMT
Hi
As a owner, of a 900s for 3 months now, Reading through the posts , many asked about better bulbs. The standard bulb, was bad to say the least. The next up date was to use a bulb from my old bike, A PHILPS, MOTOVISION, 12v 60/55w. A fast improvement over standard. The next upgrade, was to use a Bulb, From HALFORDS. 12v 60/55w. Knowm as EXTREME BRILLIANCE, with 90 per cent more light. As far this is the best bulb to date. The Philps MotoVision, stated 40 per cent more light.
The bulb from hafords where £20 for 2, but well worth the money. When i was there, i seen, New on the market, AURORA 150mm, with 5x , 1.5w ultra bright LEDS, Square spots. Bought those also, I,ve mounted them under the headlight, on the flat level part of the fern.
Driving at night is a pleasure, now, with a hell of a spread of bright white light, these are wired into the parking light. There is a hell of a light of these in the day light hours, you only need to use the parking light , as thes light through the switch.
Even with the upgraded bulb, the main head light is a yellow shade , to these LED spots, they are that bright. Well worth the money.
I,ll post some photo,s, if some one runs through, the uploading photo,s to the post with me.
BE SEEN, In this day & age, is the way to go.
Now to wire my stebel air horns next, Its nice to have them at the flick of a switch.
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Post by bobh on Nov 25, 2008 21:10:05 GMT
Sounds like a great idea, and won't draw much power.
Do you use the spots on their own in daytime, or the whole lot?
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Post by zoro on Nov 25, 2008 21:58:34 GMT
Sounds like a great idea, and won't draw much power. Do you use the spots on their own in daytime, or the whole lot. Through out the day, the spots, come on, with the first, setting on the switch gear, what is for the parking light. Think its point less, to have the head light on dip, as the spots are that bright. Even in lower light, this is the way i drive, only switching onto dip, as the evening darkens, & a little more beam is needed on the road. I,ll try posting a few photo,s tomorrow |
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Post by zoro on Nov 25, 2008 22:34:49 GMT
 The two LED SPOTS.  The MAIN LIGHT on parking light.  The Main light on FULL BEAM. The Two small Green dots, each side of the bike in the photo,s, are a Small single GREEN LED, placed before the D, & one after the N, in the Diversion sticker. They light the name up in Green at night, but are very small, most people havent noticed them, when not turned on. |
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Post by bobh on Nov 26, 2008 21:26:13 GMT
That looks good - I like the wide spread of light.
A cautionary note - are you absolutely sure the front mudguard won't knock them on full bump? I'm not sure how much clearance there is under the fairing as standard - maybe one of our experts will be able to quote the figure?
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Post by m40man on Nov 26, 2008 21:34:53 GMT
..are you absolutely sure the front mudguard won't knock them on full bump? No expert, but my spots, on my Trophy1200 & one of my D6's were mounted same place & never clouted the mudguard. So I reckon it should be fine. |
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Post by eliminator on Nov 26, 2008 21:51:00 GMT
They look good, I'm afte something that makes me more obvious to other road users. How much were they? I've just looked on Halfords website, not shown  |
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Post by teejayexc on Nov 26, 2008 21:54:48 GMT
Hmm, they do look nice, but as Bob says bewary of them fouling the front mudguard. I had some small spots on my D9, they were fine but I also mounted a stebel horn under there (on the OE horn mount), and once when being a little too adventurous over a speed bump it bottomed out(1) on the mudguard  , still got the groove to prove it. (1) Since fitted Hagon progressive springs so it doesn't bounce about like it used to  |
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Post by teejayexc on Nov 26, 2008 21:56:01 GMT
Many a true word......................... ;D Trev |
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zoro
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Post by zoro on Nov 26, 2008 21:56:11 GMT
That looks good - I like the wide spread of light. A cautionary note - are you absolutely sure the front mudguard won't knock them on full bump? I'm not sure how much clearance there is under the fairing as standard - maybe one of our experts will be able to quote the figure? I tested that problem, well in advance, At the moment, i have 2 shot fork seals, & the forks are set soft, on the settings. The front mudgard, still is no where close, to the bottom of the spots. If you look at he spots, they are long, but very shallow in their depth, to most other spots, that are on the market. I think with them,, be they round or square, the problem that you spoke off, would most likely have occured. |
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Post by teejayexc on Nov 26, 2008 22:00:42 GMT
They look good, I'm afte something that makes me more obvious to other road users. This?  ;D Trev |
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Post by m40man on Nov 26, 2008 22:07:25 GMT
Many a true word......................... ;D Trev I'm no expert, it's true .... .... I also mounted a stebel horn under there (on the OE horn mount), and once when being a little too adventurous over a speed bump it bottomed out on the mudguard , But I'm no idiot, either  . |
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zoro
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Post by zoro on Nov 26, 2008 22:09:10 GMT
They look good, I'm afte something that makes me more obvious to other road users. How much were they? I've just looked on Halfords website, not shown . Even in day light hours, you will be a lot more obvious, as other road users have been saying. Halfords had 2 sets of driving lamps. The first set, where less powerfull, & smaller, would have most likely looked a little better under the fern. These where £ 35.00. I was in two minds about paying, the £70.00 for the spots. I even drove the bike to the shop, to think on it again. But after using these, in the day & at night, & from what other road users have sayed about them, ( I had to tilt them down, next the road a little more, due to complaints,, i MADE the RIGHT choice. I ride 7 days a week, & over the space of a years driving, it works out very little money to be seen. I,m TRYING, NOT TO HEAR THE TRUSTED WORDS. DIDN<T SEE YOU MATE. To me this choice is not a option. |
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Post by teejayexc on Nov 26, 2008 22:28:37 GMT
But I'm no idiot, either . ;D |
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Post by zoro on Nov 27, 2008 13:29:34 GMT
They look good, I'm afte something that makes me more obvious to other road users. How much were they? I've just looked on Halfords website, not shown These are what, you neen to be looking for. Hope it helpd.  |
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Post by mikestrong on Nov 28, 2008 14:02:36 GMT
These look good, but as I'm carp at electrical stuff how easy are they to fit for a ludite like me.
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Post by zoro on Nov 30, 2008 10:50:18 GMT
These look good, but as I'm carp at electrical stuff how easy are they to fit for a ludite like me. If you sit down, look at the items from the box, & read through the details, IT shows in simple terms, at what, goes where. You can,t go wrong. Study till you are happy, that you know what every thing, is for, & how it fits, very simple, the wires, plugs into the boxs. you,ll be ok. There are 3 little boxs, the size of a matchbox each, I have 2 of them stuck, with the tape included, to the inside of the fern. The other, i mounted down next the battery, you can tape the wires together, then feed them up the side of the frame tube, & under the fern, up to the 2 boxs in the fern,, that can, Be taped or cable tyed, where ever you feel is the best for you. Each item,s all have ends that conect, into where they are to fit, so there will be no mistake. The boxs & spots, have a lot of wire to each, its coiled up, & held with a few tye,s. You are safer, to unroll, the wire that you need, & then tye the coil of wire again. I unrolled all the coils, and had yards of wire, that i then had to tape, or coil & tye again. Don,t make my mistake. This is the more simple way. If wanted you could cut the wire to lenght, ect, rejoin, for a tidy job ect. Ask if you are unsure, & i,ll keep you straight. |
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Post by mikestrong on Dec 2, 2008 20:07:34 GMT
Erm,
I have managed to purchase the LED Daytime Styling Lamps. 11 x ice white LED's. So should do the same job.
Trouble is they only have 2 wires similar to they bayonet fittings on indicators. How & what would I connect those into?
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Post by zoro on Dec 3, 2008 8:46:22 GMT
Erm, I have managed to purchase the LED Daytime Styling Lamps. 11 x ice white LED's. So should do the same job. Trouble is they only have 2 wires similar to they bayonet fittings on indicators. How & what would I connect those into? Are they different, from the halford spots, ??Just checking, as you spoke of Bayonet fittings. A few photo,s if possible. What colour are the two wires, running from each spot. Where do you intend to mount them. Trying to have some details on them, before i run you through the fitting, of them. |
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Post by mikestrong on Dec 3, 2008 20:32:52 GMT
They're made by Ring & i was going to fit them in the same place under the fairing.
They have a black & red wire about 6" long. The fitting at the end is identical to the ends on the Divvies indicators.
Any thoughts?
Looks as if they should just plug into another wire/connector somewhere.
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Post by m40man on Dec 3, 2008 20:43:39 GMT
They're made by Ring & i was going to fit them in the same place under the fairing. They have a black & red wire about 6" long. The fitting at the end is identical to the ends on the Divvies indicators. Any thoughts? Looks as if they should just plug into another wire/connector somewhere. Well, you can't expect Mr Yamaha to predict your requirement, so just plumb them into your headlight or sidelight circuit, depending which you want them on with  . (When I put spots under the fairing on my Trophy, I actually wired them quite independantly of any other lights, so I could choose whether to have them on alone or not. I mounted a switch on the fairing.) |
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Post by mikestrong on Dec 3, 2008 20:50:12 GMT
Suspect I'd go for sidelight.
But how do i "plumb" them in. I hate all things electrical on cars of bikes.
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Post by teejayexc on Dec 3, 2008 21:30:30 GMT
Suspect I'd go for sidelight. But how do i "plumb" them in. I hate all things electrical on cars of bikes. <Sits back and waits for the High Wycombe Wiring God to respond>  |
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Post by Pool Boy on Dec 3, 2008 22:48:15 GMT
Black wire goes to earth (in the case of a m/bike this is usually the frame or similar metalic mounting point)
Red wire needs to connect to another wire that's live when (and only when) you want the new lights to be on.
For example you could add the new lights in to the existing 'sidelight' wiring, or you could wire them into the dipped beam light
You could strip back a bit of wire and wrap the two together and bind up with insulation tape BUT THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA.
Best get a 'Scotchlock' from Halfords (or similar outlet) - they come in packs of 5 or 10 and should only cost coppers.
HTH
Roger
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Post by zoro on Dec 4, 2008 16:29:03 GMT
Suspect I'd go for sidelight. But how do i "plumb" them in. I hate all things electrical on cars of bikes. From reading the above posts, the question has been answered. The choice of parking light, dip, or full beam, will be your choice to wire into. |
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Post by iooi on Dec 5, 2008 19:00:14 GMT
If these are to be daytime riding lights....
Then please don't wire them to Main beam as nothing is worse than some muppet riding/driving on main beam in the daytime.
Aside from the fact its a lot harder to judge distance/speed when you are blinded....
Anyone else remember back to the 70's and the Day Rider lights that were pushed.... Never made any diffrence to being seen.
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Post by m40man on Dec 5, 2008 19:49:13 GMT
nyone else remember back to the 70's and the Day Rider lights that were pushed.... Well I'm obviously not old enough for that . But in the early eighties I had a pair of 7" Cibies mounted on the engine bars on my CB650Z. I was dead cool ;D. |
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Post by cam7777 on Dec 5, 2008 20:04:18 GMT
nyone else remember back to the 70's and the Day Rider lights that were pushed.... Well I'm obviously not old enough for that . But in the early eighties I had a pair of 7" Cibies mounted on the engine bars on my CB650Z. I was dead cool ;D. Blimey, did you have a CB650Z when you were 10 years old? |
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Post by zoro on Dec 5, 2008 21:23:24 GMT
If these are to be daytime riding lights.... Then please don't wire them to Main beam as nothing is worse than some muppet riding/driving on main beam in the daytime. Aside from the fact its a lot harder to judge distance/speed when you are blinded.... Anyone else remember back to the 70's and the Day Rider lights that were pushed.... Never made any diffrence to being seen. I would say that , the lights in question, do make a difference, i can,t pass coment on the 70,s day rider lights. The guys that i work with, can see, & know the bike a fair distance, away, as we pass each other, on the motorways. Some of the bikes will have these fitted in the next few weeks. This is from others that eat the miles every day on day, through out the year. |
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Post by m40man on Dec 5, 2008 22:35:18 GMT
Well I'm obviously not old enough for that . But in the early eighties I had a pair of 7" Cibies mounted on the engine bars on my CB650Z. I was dead cool ;D. Blimey, did you have a CB650Z when you were 10 years old? That's right Clive If all goes to plan you may see me on my current one for the Frosty run . |
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