Post by anon on Jan 31, 2007 21:09:53 GMT
From: FazerM40Man1 Sent: 17/10/2006
www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/index.shtml
From: FazerM40Man1 Sent: 17/10/2006
Particularly interesting was the Yammy OE one:
www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/yamaha.shtml
From: Tour_De_Mark Sent: 17/10/2006
Interesting (Like you I went to Yammy, then Suzuki.)
Trouble is I don't know exactly what to do with this info. You can't assume the good ones have stayed good or the bad one's are still bad. For me it's not practical to buy two filters and cut up one to check every time.
Glad someone did this though.
I do know someone who had a faulty oil filter create a oil pressure issue in a car - if he hadn't had an oil pressure gauge he'd never have known. Doesn't bear thinking about.
From: FazerM40Man1 Sent: 17/10/2006
Good ones still good, bad ones still bad? Fair point, TDM. Though you can prob fairly assume that the good ones remain so. (Why would a company re-engineer the manufacturing process on such low-value products without good cause??)
The bad ones may have improved, due to sites like this one. I do feel it lends a lie to the general assumption or assertion that OE is necessarily best though.
From: Grafe Sent: 17/10/2006
Strange that Yamaha would reccomend a product that would potentially wreck your motor. Is there a problem with having paper ends if they can't go anywhere? I have seen this review in the past. You can bet that all those couriers used Yamaha filters. I wouldn't have a clue which filter to use instead of a Yamaha one. I change mine every 5000ks anyway. No oil pressure guage on the bike though. Have one on both the cars and have never had a problem with oil pressure in probably 500,000 ks.
From: FazerM40Man1 Sent: 17/10/2006
To be fair, the Yammy one isn't slagged-off altogether. Just it's construction doesn't appear as robust as others. It also doesn't seem to have any more folds for surface area than many others, which suggests that those with similar folds & more robust construction are likely at least as good.
A die-hard Yammy filter user will no doubt comment on the TYPE of paper used. There may be a quality issue in that, I have no idea - but a poor basis for a recommendation given the overall poor appearance of the Yammy one.
On one of the other paper-ended ones the site says:
"I could pull outward from the edge of the endcap and little bits of paper would stick to my fingers. The author of the car filter study reports having engine damage caused by bits of paper and glue from one of these filters floating about in his engine."
You pays your money...... (More money with OE ones!!)
From: Tour_De_Mark Sent: 17/10/2006
Why would a company re-engineer the manufacturing process on such low-value products without good cause
They'd periodically change supplier for sure.
I do feel it lends a lie to the general assumption or assertion that OE is necessarily best though.
For sure. Although I suspect YDC's discerning readers will have already realized that.
Strange that Yamaha would reccomend a product that would potentially wreck your motor.
Maybe a supplier did the dirty? Maybe there was a fire at their usual supplier and they had to change for a few months. Maybe they're spec-ed like that becasue they know it doesn't matter. Impossible to say.
Is there a problem with having paper ends if they can't go anywhere?
I'm wondering that. Anyone?
Personally despite this excellent article I'm gonna carry on as before. (Buying Halfords or OE depending on how I feel at the time.) There are just too many variables to check and not every supplier sells more than one brand anyway.