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Post by bighairymuppet on Sept 14, 2008 18:37:47 GMT
ok my left indictaor both front and rear do not work. they were working intermittent but have now stopped altogether. Right hand works fine.
at one point the relay was buzzing and no indictaors when you turned them on to left but now nothing at all.
ive checked both units and they both work ok and ive checked the wiring i can see.
ive also tried shorting the switch with a screw driver to make sure its not the switch but although right still works left doesnt. also everthing else on the cluster works fine.
cana relay fail on one side only? if not where do i start looking for faulty wiring as im not very sure. The immediate wiring behind the light cluster and near the front indictaor looks ok.
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Post by HRHpenfold on Sept 14, 2008 19:58:25 GMT
ok my left indictaor both front and rear do not work. they were working intermittent but have now stopped altogether. Right hand works fine. at one point the relay was buzzing and no indictaors when you turned them on to left but now nothing at all. ive checked both units and they both work ok and ive checked the wiring i can see. ive also tried shorting the switch with a screw driver to make sure its not the switch but although right still works left doesnt. also everthing else on the cluster works fine. cana relay fail on one side only? if not where do i start looking for faulty wiring as im not very sure. The immediate wiring behind the light cluster and near the front indictaor looks ok. sounds like an earth problem. |
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Post by CD on Sept 14, 2008 20:10:26 GMT
Wot e said or a wire has chafed causing a partial short or a broken wire / corroded connection from the switch to LH lamps. Nothing for it but very careful inspection of all the wiring.
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Post by bighairymuppet on Sept 15, 2008 14:49:12 GMT
so its a fairing off job then?
absolutely no chance one side of relay can fail? ( have no idea how these things are wired).
any way to pinpoint it more than ive done i dont have a multimeter (which would make life so much simpler) only got a standard test lamp screwdriver and a long crocodile cable to create a new test earth .
Ive a basic understanding but struggling to figure out where the wiring runs (bear in mind ive not had the fairing off yet)
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Post by covertcodger on Sept 15, 2008 16:13:44 GMT
Start with the Indicator light fittings. You could get lucky, corrosion does not strike inside a wiring loom but (usually) where it is out in the weather. Take the lens off each fitting and starting from the bulb holder work along each cable, especially at connectors and be suspicious of connectors under plastic sleeves.
But I think Iain is right, it looks like an earth problem.
Good luck.
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Post by bighairymuppet on Sept 15, 2008 16:50:31 GMT
unfortunately ive already checked the indicators and theyre all ok. and the right hand circuit's ok. oh dear i hate electrics.
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Post by bighairymuppet on Sept 16, 2008 16:01:05 GMT
as its rotten weather at the moment im gonna have to check this out at the weekend. having spoke to my local garage they think its wiring as well or the switch as the relay doesnt fail for one side. Theyre really good guys and gave me pointers. In case i gave up i got a quote though and its £30 per hour and they reckon may take up to 1 - 1.5h between taking fairing off and finding it ( they hate elctrics too) so since im skint looks like ill be up to it again. All i can say is fun fun fun.
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Post by Tigger on Sept 16, 2008 17:07:06 GMT
Is yours fitted with hazards. If those are working it would point more towards a dodgy switch. I had a similar problem when I had a 900 and was a badly soldered joint in the switch.
Matt
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Post by darren on Sept 16, 2008 18:41:50 GMT
try putting a direct earth to it to see if there is an earth fault, just disconnect from under the seat and put an earth straight to the indicator wire
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Post by bighairymuppet on Sept 16, 2008 20:35:39 GMT
no hazards so cant try that.
darren where would connect it from where to where.
direct onto indicator? apologies if im being stupid just after a few beers. thanks
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Post by darren on Sept 17, 2008 14:58:48 GMT
pm sent
and clutch sent by donkey mail
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Post by CD on Sept 17, 2008 16:16:42 GMT
Indicators usually have two wires because the platic body is not earthed. One wire (eventually) bolts to the frame the other goes into the wiring loom. All you can do is carefully trace them through.
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Post by HRHpenfold on Sept 17, 2008 17:00:09 GMT
I am probably wrong here not having much to do with indicators, but I thought that to allow both sets of indicators to use the same indicator relay, it would need the earths to be conected to the relay and the power to arrive at the indicator via the switch, if that is the case, your non working bulb should get power when the switch is operated, so should light up when another earth is connected to the earth and the earth connection in the indicator.
anyone know if this is correct?
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Post by CD on Sept 18, 2008 9:17:05 GMT
I think it usually goes fuse - flasher unit - indicator - switch - bulbs (left or right).
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Post by coyote on Sept 30, 2008 13:38:01 GMT
I had the same problem and found the two conecters under the left hand side of the fairing had carroded. I just cut off the conecters and replaced with new conectors or you could join the wires together and insulate well with good tap I did not have to take off the fairing to do this. Mine have worked fine since and I use the bike in all weathers. hope this helps and you have not had to pay for work done!!
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Post by HRHpenfold on Sept 30, 2008 18:14:19 GMT
I think it usually goes fuse - flasher unit - indicator - switch - bulbs (left or right). Having looked at the wiring diagram, you are of course correct, so would point out either a corroded switch, or earth common to both indicators, though there are other earths on the same earth circuit  |
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