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Post by joriff on Jul 3, 2008 22:21:27 GMT
I cant get the bike up on its centre stand, it either skids across the floor or i cant lift the bike up. Any techniques or tips to help?  |
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Post by neilmud Lord Protector on Jul 3, 2008 22:49:21 GMT
Weight training, steroids, lead boots or get help.  Neil |
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Post by bobh on Jul 4, 2008 0:33:32 GMT
If the bike's pointing even slightly downhill, or the front wheel is dragging on anything, it's next to impossible, even with my 12+ stone on the pedal.
Try positioning the bike so it's pointing uphill and the weight will help it onto the stand. It should roll off again easily enough.
Alternatively run the front wheel onto a sheet of plywood or something about 10 mm thick - that way there's not as far to lift the bike, or put another way, the stand goes further down before it hits the ground and you have better leverage.
Bob
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Post by joriff on Jul 4, 2008 7:57:45 GMT
Weight training lol!
I'm 12 stone too and cant shift it, i like the idea of the plywood, would probably put it under the rear tyre? i'll have a play with it today.
Because the bike is being stored in a shed overnight i get paranoid it will fall over on the sidestand, or slip somehow.
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Post by CD on Jul 4, 2008 10:42:22 GMT
My 900 is much easier to pull onto the stand since I repaired (again) the cracked cross tube and reinforced the whole thing. Put full weight on the stand arm and pull the bike up using the handle under the LHS driver's seat.
If the suspension is lowered it will be virtually impossible to get onto the stand without some plywood under a wheel.
Mine is normally stored on the side stand ina shed. I have some plywood under the stand and use a brick to stop the bike rolling to far forward into the end wall.
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Post by bighairymuppet on Jul 4, 2008 10:52:11 GMT
theres a technique to its still heavy through. put stand down to so just touching ground put full ball of right foot on it put hand on back grab handle and pull and back whilst putting all weight on foot on stand. if you get it right it should just pivot perfectly. as the guys have said hills can change this and make easier or harder but thats it.
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Post by beeblemaster on Jul 4, 2008 10:52:30 GMT
Had to go and do this to take note, as once you've done it, it's like riding a bike  (but I had trouble when I first tried a D6) Left hand on the left hand grip keeping the steering straight (to keep bike upright as it falls back on stand) Right hand fed from under the pillion grip, so you can 'lift' Body stood over the centre stand Foot straight down (dead vertical) on the centrestand, gentle lift on right hand and make sure left hand keeps steering straight If you're still having problem try moving your right hand down by the pillion footpeg frame and supporting there. Best of luck |
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Post by bighairymuppet on Jul 4, 2008 10:52:49 GMT
oops just noticed post before me
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Post by sotirisp on Jul 4, 2008 12:08:48 GMT
here is my trick that always worked: I grab with my left hand the handlebar grip and with the right hand the passenger's handle. Then i put the center stand down touching to the ground. Then instead of trying to push the bike back with force, i do this: Slightly lifting the back of the bike using the passenger's handle (it doesn't need too much force - just enough to feel that the rear shock absorber extends upwards...) and then (using both hands) slightly pushing the bike backwards...Piece of cake. The bike almost sets itself on the center stand... I don't know if i described it well enough but it always works and it makes it much easier. Try it. Of course the bike should be almost level at least (pointing downhill makes things much difficult). EDIT: Oops , i just realized that Sir Beeblemaster describes the same procedure. Sorry for the repeated post...  |
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Post by halloway on Jul 4, 2008 18:44:17 GMT
I find that the bike lifts entirely due to the weight I am putting on the stand (I'm 16st so I have it easy in that respect.) My hands stabilise the bike until the bike is nearly on the stand at which point I try to cushion the impact of the bike fully going on to the stand. I try to avoid letting the bike going onto the stand with a clunk.
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Post by bobh on Jul 4, 2008 18:47:07 GMT
Just to add - I have managed to hurt the ball of my foot a couple of times by doing it (putting the bike on the stand that is - no sniggering at the back) when wearing trainers - ALWAYS wear shoes/boots with a rigid sole.
Bob
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Post by m40man on Jul 4, 2008 19:38:56 GMT
Just to add - I have managed to hurt the ball of my foot a couple of times by doing it (putting the bike on the stand that is - no sniggering at the back) when wearing trainers - ALWAYS wear shoes/boots with a rigid sole. Bob Buy a Fazer - I can put mine on it's stand wearing my slippers . |
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Post by teejayexc on Jul 4, 2008 19:48:44 GMT
Do what the shorthouse from Cockermouth once advised...have a piece of wood about 6" long and about 1" thick. Taper it too as thin as you can at one end. Place behind rear wheel (when it's on the sidestand  ), stand bike up, push bike slowly up the tapered 'ramp' and, voila, putting the centrestand down is a piece of the proverbial! Sounds a clat, but if it works for a bloke of 5'2" it'll work for anyone ;D Trev |
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Post by joriff on Jul 4, 2008 20:43:03 GMT
I found a piece of wood in the shed that should do the job, i'll taper it with a planer. I dont think i'll take it anywhere else with me though, i'll just use the side stand when i'm out lol!
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Post by darren on Jul 10, 2008 13:35:43 GMT
not a lot of verbal instruction but it gives you the idea of what people are saying here
While training cbt'ers we tought them to place the centre stand squarely on the ground as shown in the vid, and you should be able to leave go of the bike and still balance the bike with you foot on the stand and you weight firmly pressed on it, only try this in practise if someone is there at hand on the other side of the bike, in the training schools case, it was the instructor
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Post by joriff on Jul 17, 2008 16:25:44 GMT
That video is good, i did it first time!! excellent!
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Post by darren on Jul 17, 2008 17:14:21 GMT
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Post by CD on Jul 24, 2008 17:33:32 GMT
On the 900 I use the hidden grab handle under the side of the driver's seat. Full body wight on the stand and pull up on the handle - sort of squeezing the two apart. It works fine in trainers or bike boots.
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Post by deliriousthunder on Aug 2, 2008 16:45:57 GMT
looks like you've already got it.. but I'll give you my 2 pennys worth anyway..
I'm under 10st and I lift my 600 onto the centre stand no bother.. you don't have to put much force into it if you get the technique right..
1) fold the centrestand down and put your right foot on the lever bit..
2) hold the left handlebar with your left hand and the right grab handle with your right hand
3) push the stand down and slightly towards the rear of the bike with your foot, at the same time as lifting the grab handle with your right hand, you're not trying to lift up AND backwards, just straight up.. you can use your left hand on the handle bar to also give the bike a little nudge backwards onto the stand, but most of the work will be done by just pushing down with your foot and pulling up with your right hand..
If you do all the things mentioned in step 3 simultaneously, you should find it's not too hard really..
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Post by pinkunicorn on Aug 20, 2008 22:08:37 GMT
Why dont you just ask a girl to do it for you ;D I dont have any trouble getting mine on the centre stand  |
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Post by El Fuego on Aug 21, 2008 7:37:31 GMT
Looks like everyone's covered the technique. Only thing I'd add is that (with my 900) it's easier to do if I look towards the back of the bike (i.e. the direction it moves when you put it on the stand) whilst simultaneously lifting with right hand, pushing down on stand with right foot, and gently pulling back on left bar with left hand. Works every time - even when wearing slippers! ;D And unless I've put the bike on the stand whilst on an incline, I take it off the stand whilst NOT sitting on the bike. (Hold left bar with left hand, pull on left pillion grab rail with right hand). |
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Post by cam7777 on Aug 21, 2008 8:16:12 GMT
Just to add - I have managed to hurt the ball of my foot a couple of times by doing it (putting the bike on the stand that is - no sniggering at the back) when wearing trainers - ALWAYS wear shoes/boots with a rigid sole. Bob Buy a Fazer - I can put mine on it's stand wearing my slippers . I agree with Martin, just finding a mug to off load the 900 to was the tricky part for me though  |
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Post by apricot on Sept 11, 2008 20:40:49 GMT
Just to add - I have managed to hurt the ball of my foot a couple of times by doing it (putting the bike on the stand that is - no sniggering at the back) when wearing trainers - ALWAYS wear shoes/boots with a rigid sole. Bob Buy a Fazer - I can put mine on it's stand wearing my slippers . Is that with or without the pipe lit? ;D Ady |
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Post by gcos on Apr 11, 2009 16:25:35 GMT
looks like you've already got it.. but I'll give you my 2 pennys worth anyway.. I'm under 10st and I lift my 600 onto the centre stand no bother.. you don't have to put much force into it if you get the technique right.. 1) fold the centrestand down and put your right foot on the lever bit.. 2) hold the left handlebar with your left hand and the right grab handle with your right hand 3) push the stand down and slightly towards the rear of the bike with your foot, at the same time as lifting the grab handle with your right hand, you're not trying to lift up AND backwards, just straight up.. you can use your left hand on the handle bar to also give the bike a little nudge backwards onto the stand, but most of the work will be done by just pushing down with your foot and pulling up with your right hand.. If you do all the things mentioned in step 3 simultaneously, you should find it's not too hard really.. I've had a D9 now close to 4 months, and could never get it on the centrestand without someone pulling from behind - big job everytime. Now I'm used to Big Hondas, but never could manage this bike. Just read the above info at 11 pm last night, and had to go and try it immediately - Bingo - it works perfectly. I've been showing off all day ;D. The mistake I was making was trying to pull the bike backards at the same time. Like the man says ' lift upwards' and it works easily. Many thanks from me. Gerard |
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Post by eliminator on Apr 11, 2009 17:20:18 GMT
Still a shiter of a mainstand though, too narrow between the feet. By comparison my 1150 GS is sooooooooooooo easy, and it is well balnced being able to alternate between sitting on either wheel by the pressure of one finger alone.
EDIT
Actually remembered the bit about lifting up, and not up & back, must admit, it was a revelation.
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Post by bear on May 28, 2009 19:50:28 GMT
Bit of a schoolboy error last week - bike was on a downward slope, I'd say about 7-10%. Put my weight on it and bent the bloody centrestand leg!
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Post by CD on May 29, 2009 11:22:23 GMT
It might be telling you its time for some repairs. The D9 stand corrodes badly and only borderline stong enough when new.
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Post by eliminator on Mar 7, 2010 8:49:55 GMT
Every now and then, I spray ACF50 inside the stand. Dunno if it hactually helps stop the rot, but, makes me feel better.
prevention being better than cure.
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Post by teejayexc on Mar 7, 2010 8:56:06 GMT
Every now and then, I spray ACF50 inside the stand. Dunno if it hactually helps stop the rot, but, makes me feel better. prevention being better than cure. When I had mine off and cross brace welded on, then powdercoated , I sealed the top holes too, stops carp getting inside. |
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Post by Sean on Mar 7, 2010 12:47:55 GMT
I don't know how the centre stand works - i get my wife to park my bike up for me!
;D ;D
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(but I had trouble when I first tried a D6)
), stand bike up, push bike slowly up the tapered 'ramp' and, voila, putting the centrestand down is a piece of the proverbial!
