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Post by m40man on Mar 12, 2010 20:32:30 GMT
I'm looking at converting a US-spec bike, which has front indicators permanently on as daytime riding lights, into something a bit more 'normal'. IE, I'd like them to work as stock European indicators. If anyone has done such a mod - any clues or tips which could save me time or cash would be greatly appreciated .
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Post by teejayexc on Mar 12, 2010 20:43:32 GMT
Can't you just turn the lights on and off when you come to a turn ? Don't US spec bikes have to have indicators then ? Finally , with your, legendary, wiring skills, (or enrol Fiasco), I'd have thought you could just re-wire them....knowing you two they would work intermittently, (word?), like indicators are supposed to do anyway ;D
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Post by m40man on Mar 12, 2010 20:47:20 GMT
.... Don't US spec bikes have to have indicators then ? They are on all the time. Then when you indicate guess what happens - they flash on & off . HONESTY EDIT: When I say "Then when you indicate guess what happens - they flash on & off ." what I mean is - that's whats supposed to happen. What actually happens at present is ........................... nowt ;D!
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Post by teejayexc on Mar 12, 2010 20:57:57 GMT
HONESTY EDIT: When I say "Then when you indicate guess what happens - they flash on & off ." what I mean is - that's whats supposed to happen. What actually happens at present is ........................... nowt ;D! Sooo....you've already had a go at re-wiring them then ?
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Post by sledgegreen on Mar 15, 2010 19:21:13 GMT
Just a guess, but are there different flasher relays for UK and US spec bikes? I would start by borrowing a UK spec relay and plugging it in.
My Haynes manual shows that UK bikes from 92-95 have the same wiring diagram as US bikes from 92-96, so I think this is a good bet if your bike is within these years. Even after that, I suspect that this would be easier for vehicle makers than any other way of making this work.
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Post by m40man on Mar 15, 2010 19:37:47 GMT
Cheers sledgegreen. Bike is a Honda, 1984. I was thinking that maybe the front indicators, being always-on, might be on a stock flasher unit, which makes 'em go off when the rears come on, if you see what I mean ..... but I don't really know . Can't run to a new flasher unit unless I'm pretty sure that's what's needed. Wonder if my VFR one might transfer over for a test .
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Post by sledgegreen on Mar 15, 2010 20:40:23 GMT
Oops. I just assumed it was a divvy.
No promises, but I might be able to get one from a 1983 CB250RS. I gave the wreck to a local ATC unit - I think they were going to salvage the engine for a go-kart. if they still have the rest of it, I will ask for the flasher relay back.
I also have a 95 Divvy 600 which I am gradually stripping for parts. If you want to try the flasher from that, post a piccy of your socket. If it looks like a match, you're welcome to it.
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Post by m40man on Mar 15, 2010 20:59:51 GMT
.... No promises, but I might be able to get one from a 1983 CB250RS. ................ I also have a 95 Divvy 600 which I am gradually stripping for parts. A kind offers, thanks . I'm pretty sure some rewiring is involved - if only to kill the lights when the indicators aren't being used. So some further research required there, I think. As I have other bikes from which to rob units, I'll pass on your kind offer for now. I'll let you know what I learn .
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Post by CD on Mar 21, 2010 10:14:27 GMT
Here's a thought... Do the US bikes have hazard flashers?
If not, its possible the circuit thats used in Europe with a hazard flasher relay (all 4 flashing relay is used on US bikes to run the driving lamps.
BUT - with UK being so full of muppet drivers you might be more visible with the bike in a standard US setup.
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Post by m40man on Mar 21, 2010 12:24:05 GMT
Thanks for everyone's input (especially Trev's .). This project has been usurped by another one so I no longer need to find out !
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Post by streetfreak on Mar 27, 2010 10:08:39 GMT
hi me again if any one comes across this again the us model uses a twin filament bulb you need to disconect one wire that powers the permanant lighting side or fit uk units and only use the wire from the flasher side hope this makes sence but got used to this as i also drive a yanktank
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Post by m40man on Mar 27, 2010 10:39:11 GMT
.... you need to disconect one wire that powers the permanant lighting side or fit uk units and only use the wire from the flasher side ..... Aha - cheers SF, I'll lock that tip away for next time, as a next time there must surely be !
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Post by cam7777 on Mar 27, 2010 13:01:16 GMT
Finally , with your, legendary, wiring skills, (or enrol Fiasco), I'd have thought you could just re-wire them.... PMSL
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Post by streetfreak on Apr 1, 2010 19:44:25 GMT
Is no probs guys , if any one knows of peeps wanting us front repeaters i still have the original ones from the seca , one day i shall dig under the front and tell yall the corect wires by colour if it's any help. Ps finaly got the carbon can' on the seca yeeehaw
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Post by eliminator on Apr 2, 2010 15:02:06 GMT
My Kawasaki Eliminator had front indicators as running lights. my weak! recollection of these, is that the bulbs were just brake tail types, but fitted into the front indicator. as someone said earlier, just cut a wire, preferably the correct one.
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Post by teejayexc on Apr 2, 2010 17:23:11 GMT
......just cut a wire, preferably the correct one..... ..... and therein lies Martins dilemma
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Post by Flymo on Apr 2, 2010 17:30:37 GMT
......just cut a wire, preferably the correct one..... ..... and therein lies Martins dilemma It's the Blue one. What do you mean it's not Blue It's always the Blue one in the films.
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