Givi/Kappa Boxes

[mikestrong]

Need some info from our members.

Will the bigger panniers supplied by the above fit a std. Wingrack or do the indicators need to be extended on the wingrack?

[CD]

I'm 99% sure the wing rack wont fit with the standard indicators. These pix might help.

diversionclub.proboards74.com/index.cgi?board=runwhatubrung&action=display&thread=7140&page=1

[mikestrong]

I'm not making myself clear .

I have the same set up as in the pictures including the indicators. What I need to know is will any pannier supplied by Givi/Kappa fit of does the wingrack need altering with extra parts?

[bobh]

I can say that E36 boxes will fit with the standard Givi indicators, and I don't recall them being at all close to the indicators. Are you thinking of anything bigger?

[m40man]

Mar 9, 2009 18:39:17 GMT @mikestrong said:

...What I need to know is will any pannier supplied by Givi/Kappa fit or does the wingrack need altering with extra parts?

Yes. No.

[mikestrong]

e36's or 45's.

Just want an old beat up set for touring. But don't want to buy them if they won't fit.

However even old ones are fetching big money on ebay at present, must be that time of year

[diver15]

E45s fit the standard wingrack with the standard wingrack indicators, without modification.

Dan

[CD]

The wingrack uses the monolock system so monokey cases wont fit. I have a pair of E35s and they stick out wider than the handlebars and adversly affect the fuel consumption even when empty. IMHO the topbox size E45 would look ungainly. They all seem to have much the same footprint (or is it side print :-) )

[mikestrong]

My wingrack is monokey & I normally have the small 21ltr. panniers with a 46ltr. Topbox.

However if touring I'd like to get as much as possible inside boxes for obvious reasons rather than just strapped onto the back of the bike.

[CD]

I'm probably confused with the key types. Mine has the two pegs with large red button for opening the latch. I've had 15kg in each side case with probably as much in the topbox. Handling was - interesting. I got there, but it's not how I would choose to ride for pleasure.

[mikestrong]

CD,

Do you have a D6 or D9. I doubt you could really overload the D9 especially with no pillion but want to enjoy the ride as well.

[CD]

It's a D9 and from a weight-only point of view it wasn't overloaded, but all that weight was behind the rear axle. The front end pushed wide and it tended to weave in bends and I would not have liked to really use the brakes in the wet. For serious carrying capacity, I'd love to try a monowheel luggage trailer, but they are just too costly.

[teejayexc]

I had two 36 ltr, 52 ltr topbox and luggage strapped on top of that when Diane and I went up to Scotland for a week last year. Believe me Di doesn't travel lightly , but the D9 handled and braked fine.

Just don't park with the front up hill, I had to take the cases off to get it off the stand

[CD]

Mine was much the same and a struggle to get it off the sidestand without it tipping the other way. I had it on the centre stand but couldn't roll it off so had to remove the cases and use the side stand. Maybe the two of you helped to counterbalance the heavy luggage better than li'l ol me on my own.

The bike coped, but all that weight showed.

[bobh]

About 18 months ago I posted (in the Touring section) about an unpleasant fishtailing incident I had on a damp road in France on my D9 with loaded panniers and topbox. I was solo at the time. I'm sure that the extra weight out the back contributed to this, and as CD says, you get there but it can take the fun out of it.

[mikestrong]

Well a wealth of info here.

I think unless a stunning deal comes up I'll stick with what I've got. Total of 86 ltrs. space should be enuf for 4 days.

Tent, bed & sleeping bag can go behind me.

Any thoughts on a tank bag? I've got one but don't know whether to bother. It would keep pockets etc free & be easy to get stuff like passport etc & would just unclip on ferry.

[bobh]

I always use a tank bag. Once you've got used to it you don't know it's there.

And by sheer coincidence one of the best around is about to come up on sale in Lidl next week - less than 20 quid, and IMHO it's miles better than the equivalent Oxford one at three times the price. Just don't wave the magnets anywhere near a Datatool alarm!

[mikestrong]

Heard a lot about Lidl stuff, might look at the boots.

I've got a baglux tank cover & bag but never ridden with the bag on, so will do some testing this week-end.

[CD]

I've had a Lidl tank bag for about 3 years and it's fine. I use some of that rubber mesh anti slip mat under the magnets to protect the paint. I also use a waterproof stuff roll from Aldi that straps on the seat and holds lots of stuff.

[CD]

These would do the job but they cost HOW MUCH !!!
www.thirdwheeltrailers.com/

[mikestrong]

Not for a few days Touring but maybe that's exactly what its for.

Restrict you to 60 mph though I think.

Suppose it's like all things, once you're use to it you forget it's there. My mate has just had a towbar fitted to his Harley Sportster seems strange but he's going to build a trailer so probably only a few hundred quid & time.

[CD]

I personally think the two wheeled bike-towed trailers are pointless, but those 'Busas were certainly not sticking at 60 and legally in UK we can only do 10 mph more. Most of us (cars and bikes) break the law every time we go out.

I'm planning to build my own monowheel trailer and the chassis is no big deal, but a decent looking and properly balanced body is a whole new issue.