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Post by littlethatcher on Aug 9, 2007 8:40:42 GMT
I have just bought a Stebel Nautilus Horn from a seller on EBay who describes it as a "Compact" Stebel Nautilus Horn. Has anyone fitted this on a 900 before ? Any advice ? Cheers
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Post by taint on Aug 9, 2007 9:14:31 GMT
What an insane sounding little device  I like it! I look forward to seeing how you get on. T. |
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Post by max900 on Aug 9, 2007 9:31:31 GMT
Greetings ive think ive heard of the Nautilus its the one with the relay? we have fitted the Stebel Magnum to both cheles 600s now her fazer and my 900s was easier than a politician lying ;D on the 900s i used the original horn mounting point so that the horn is just under the front of the fairing the only problem i had was i placed it so the end of the trumpet was facing up  it filled with water it sounded like a cat having its nodads squashed while under water  so its now facing down and its pretty loud it can be heard throuhg Volvo soundproofing as the guy on the M11 who tried moving across on me found out ;D Max..... |
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Post by littlethatcher on Aug 9, 2007 21:50:50 GMT
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Post by adbru on Aug 9, 2007 23:17:58 GMT
A few of the guys fitted the nautilus some time ago. I think it is the one that needs a relay as even artics get out of your way Try asking Pooh as i seem to remember he had to do a slight "modification" to his fairing to make it fit the 900. I have the magnum on my 600 and it was easy to fit, just remove the old horn and plug the new one in. Have fun Adbru. (p.s. very important ..... DONT TEST IT INSIDE YOUR GARAGE/WORKSHOP !! go outside or you will be deaf ) |
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Post by littlethatcher on Aug 10, 2007 6:55:45 GMT
Not sure what you mean by a "relay". also I dont like the sound of having to slightly modify my fairing, I aint modifying my fairing at all lol
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Post by paulcook on Aug 10, 2007 15:13:00 GMT
Just looked at that ebay link and it says that it come with a relay and bracket so you should have everything you need.
Good luck
Cookie
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Post by littlethatcher on Aug 10, 2007 20:04:10 GMT
Well it arrived today. Yes its got a little square thing with metal pins in it, I presume thats the realy, but still have no clue as to what a relay is and if I need to use it ? Surely I just connect the 2 existing cable that I have got to the 2 connectors on the horn ? Or am I missing something here ? But having looked at how it needs to fit more closely to get it to seat right part of the underneath of the fairing is gonna have to be cut away, I aint doing that at all, no way, lol. And the so called fixing bracket is not really a bracket, its a hole thats drilled in a bit of metal thats attached to the horn, so really the horn can only be fixed in one certain position. Think I will just go and buy a Stebel Magnum instead, a lot less hassle, I hope lol
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Post by max900 on Aug 11, 2007 8:40:53 GMT
Well it arrived today. Yes its got a little square thing with metal pins in it, I presume thats the realy, if its black with 4 square pins and numbers on the back then yes its probably the relay but still have no clue as to what a relay is and if I need to use it ? A relay takes your 12v(and whatever Amps) and boosts it so you dont take a lot of power from the battery but gives out a lot Surely I just connect the 2 existing cable that I have got to the 2 connectors on the horn ? Or am I missing something here ? yes you are the Nautilus is an Airhorn(style) it requires the relay to make the horn work it wont work simply by plugging it into the existing power leads as there wont be enough power(hence the relay) But having looked at how it needs to fit more closely to get it to seat right part of the underneath of the fairing is gonna have to be cut away, I aint doing that at all, no way, lol. As you will need to add your own wiring you will be able to extend from the location of the normal horn and attach it to something like the fork leg (other locations are available ;D) And the so called fixing bracket is not really a bracket, its a hole thats drilled in a bit of metal thats attached to the horn, so really the horn can only be fixed in one certain position. Think I will just go and buy a Stebel Magnum instead, a lot less hassle, I hope lol according to some specs ive just read the Magnum is 136 Decibels and the Nautilus is 139Dbs so the Nautilus is louder but there was no messing around with the magnum simply swapped it for the original, im not 100% sure if the bikes bits would take it but you could buy both magnum horns (high and low note) fit one either side of the bike and you will have a very sweet sounding and very loud horn ;D i hope this lot make sense im very much still in the waking up zone of the day ;D |
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Post by littlethatcher on Aug 11, 2007 10:02:56 GMT
Well ive ordered a magnum now so hope that will be a lot simpler, is there any RELAY involved with the Magnum ? The Nautilus doesnt have any seperate kind of bracket with it, its just a fixing point on the Nautilus. Tried to upload a pic on here but clicked the image button and it just puts img in brackets, it dont ask u which image u wanna upload ![]() [/img] |
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Post by Fiasco on Aug 11, 2007 10:40:58 GMT
Well ive ordered a magnum now so hope that will be a lot simpler, is there any RELAY involved with the Magnum ? The Nautilus doesnt have any seperate kind of bracket with it, its just a fixing point on the Nautilus. Tried to upload a pic on here but clicked the image button and it just puts img in brackets, it dont ask u which image u wanna upload ![]() [/img][/quote] No relay with the magnum, it's plug and honk. If I remember right I even attached mine with the original bracket, rather than that supplied with the horn. HTH Dave ;D |
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Post by littlethatcher on Aug 11, 2007 11:24:48 GMT
Ah well I cant I use the original bracket as mine has broken so will have to use the supplied one unless someone has a spare bracket ?
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Post by max900 on Aug 12, 2007 10:05:01 GMT
Well ive ordered a magnum now so hope that will be a lot simpler, is there any RELAY involved with the Magnum ? The Nautilus doesnt have any seperate kind of bracket with it, its just a fixing point on the Nautilus. Tried to upload a pic on here but clicked the image button and it just puts img in brackets, it dont ask u which image u wanna upload ![]() [/img][/quote] Exactly as Dave(Fiasco) just said unplug and unbolt your old horn the magnum does come with its own bracket(piece of alloy)simply bolt it to your fixing point plug it in then turn on the ignition and push the button(ensuring you are outside or wearing plugs ;D) as for the pic do exactly what you were doing press the pic button when the 2 img img appear right click IMG here IMG and paste your url link (flickr---photobucket)and it will add a url addy which is what you will see till you have hit the post reply button and posted your post Max...... |
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Post by littlethatcher on Aug 12, 2007 17:57:28 GMT
Thanks for that but still unclear on this pic lark. I do not use photobucket or an kind of online photosharing or storage, all my pics are stored on my pc and on discs etc. cant you just upload a pic straight from ur pc ?
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Post by max900 on Aug 12, 2007 18:03:54 GMT
Thanks for that but still unclear on this pic lark. I do not use photobucket or an kind of online photosharing or storage, all my pics are stored on my pc and on discs etc. cant you just upload a pic straight from ur pc ? Greetings simple answer Nope  i assume its because proboards dont want to waste storage space on photos basically you have to upload your photos to photobucket then apply a web link onto the divvy site to link your photos Max...... |
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Post by eliminator on Sept 22, 2007 15:11:14 GMT
Max900's earlier comment about definition of a relay.
A relay is used so that a relatively small switch can be used in the horn button, once pressed 12v is sent to the relay which upon receiving 12v makes a switch, which transfers 12v from a (possibly) thicker cable (which can carry a larger amperage) to the horn. If a relay wasn't used the horn button's contact would have to be considerably larger. So it serves 2 purposes. I haven't described this very eloquently, but you probably get the drift. (it's just a switch) Perhaps the starter solenoid could be described as large relay?
Incidentally, if you take the seat off the bike, and switch some of the electrics on & off, the clicking sound you hear are the relays going on & off.
Some relays (not necessarily on this bike) once fed a live current, will have numerous outputs. At work we use 11 pin relays.
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Post by eliminator on Oct 6, 2007 14:08:45 GMT
I binned the bracket that held the original brake line & horn.
( replaced brake hose with S/S ones, tie rapped these loosely in place)
Then bent the two thin brackets supplied with the horn to make a U shape, & used the original bracket's thread. Tried mounting it on the original bracket, but the horn fouled on various bits on full lock.
Don't know how you managed it Max900?
£12.74 from Halfords.
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Post by max900 on Oct 6, 2007 19:16:14 GMT
I binned the bracket that held the original brake line & horn. ( replaced brake hose with S/S ones, tie rapped these loosely in place) Then bent the two thin brackets supplied with the horn to make a U shape, & used the original bracket's thread. Tried mounting it on the original bracket, but the horn fouled on various bits on full lock. Don't know how you managed it Max900?
£12.74 from Halfords. just to clarify i have the Stebel Magnum not the Nautilus the Nautilus has a bigger trumpet i believe if you like i will take a couple of photos of mine, ive fitted the bracket downwards i believe so the horn is just showing below the fairing |
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Post by CD on Oct 20, 2007 20:53:22 GMT
I have a little red Fiamma horn mounted next to the original Yamaha horn and wired in parallel with it. Cheap and very loud and it just about clears the mudguard on full bump.
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it filled with water it sounded like a cat having its nodads squashed while under water 
