DataTool Veto alarm/immobiliser

[trikebloke]

My XJ900S Diversion has got a DataTool Veto alarm/immobiliser fitted to it, would this have been fitted at the factory, or is it an aftermarket add on? I only ask as I'm starting to think it's causing some of the starting problems, and thinking if it's aftermarket, having a go at removing it.

[bobh]

Definitely aftermarket.

I'm fairly sure there are folks on here who have experience of exterminating these pesky devices.

[spike240]

Not 100% sure - but I don't think the alarm was a factoty option. The dealer may well have had it fitted at the customers request.
There is a lot of info on tinternet about Meta alarms giving trouble after approx 10 years service. The internal battery in the alarm fails and can't be replaced. When the battery fails it imobilises the bike leaving the owner stranded.
Not sure whether Datatool alarm has same probs. Personally I hate alarms.
Sorry can't be more help.
Atb.

[sledgegreen]

I recently removed an immobiliser from an XJ600S. No idea what immobiliser it was.

It was pretty straightforward. The links into the bike's harness were of two types:

The first type was where the immobiliser needed to be able to switch a circuit on, whilst allowing it to operate normally. I think these were just the indicators and horn, which both need to work normally, but the immobiliser would have used them as an alarm if needed. These just had an immobiliser wire spliced into the existing wiring. Removal was just a question of cutting the immobiliser wire at the point where it joined the original wire and then insulating the cut.

The second type was the circuits which actually immobilise the bike, where the immobiliser needed to be able to either make or break the circuit. These joins had been made by cutting the original wire, and then each of the cut ends had been joined to a separate immobilise wire. Removal was simply a question of matching up original wires with the same colour code, then cutting out the immobiliser wire and joining together the matching ends.

It was a task which I put off for ages, because the wiring looked like a real mare's nest. Once I actually tackled it, it turned out to be pretty simple. I started by simply twisting wires together and insulating with insulating tape. Once i was convinced I had the connections right (when I had joined up all the wires and had no loose ends) I used solder and heat shrink tubing to make a permanent job. The only minor complication was that some of the type 2 links had been made by cutting out a length of wire, so I had to splice in a length to close the gap.

[trikebloke]

Ello all.

Thanks for all the replies.

Well, after laying in bed all night, thinking about it, I decided to bite the bullet this morning and take out the DataTool Veto alarm/immobiliser.

Was nowhere near as daunting as I thought it would be, just traced each wire from where it exits the alarm unit, to where it went on the bike. Luckily it obviously wasn't fitted professionally. lol

Apart from the obvious indicators, 12v supply connections etc, Ii found it was spliced into the blue/white wire, and the blue/black wire on the left hand side, and the yellow wire on the right hand side.


However, I should've known it couldnt be that simple. lol


Upon trying to start it, I still have nothing. Ive checked the solenoid and ive definitely got 12v across the main terminals, I even shorted across it again with a screwdriver just to triple check. lol


When I metered the smaller terminals on the solenoid, theres nothing.


Ive taken all the fuses out one by one and checked them, and ive pulled the right hand switch loom plug, the one under the airbox, apart and pushed it back together.


Can anyone suggest anything else, before I lose my sanity? lol

[GAv]

Be carefull if you have declared the bike is fitted with an alarm or it is assumes to have one factory, removing it may invalidate insurance. I had probs on my Renault van after trying to fit a new fob battery for the remote but unlike my two Mondeo ones which both eventually developed door lock solonoid probs the key on the renault has a chip that wont overule the Imobiliser, so cuts out the central locking remote too, it also cuts out the diesel pump. £130 for a new Fob and coded that was OK but t started cutting out so a new Crankshaft sensor return valve was also required.

Neither my XJ600 or 900s had Alarms fitted incidentally. Sounds like a faulty solenoid but that should be indicated by a click, if not have you checked the fuses on or remote( cant remember) on the actual solenoid unit, there are usually two.