Post by anon on Feb 17, 2007 16:57:30 GMT
From: Ghotí Sent: 3/16/2006
When people are downloading maps from Mapsource to a Garmin device that does support auto-routing (such as a Quest):
a) What exactly different happens (apart from using more memory) if you click the box that says 'Include route calculation data'
b) Do you guys and gals have the tick box on or off?
I've just tried the same route from my house to my mum's house after downloading the maps both with and without the box ticked and there appears to be not a lot of difference in time taken to find the route or the actual route suggested. It appears to just mean I can get less maps on the GPS.
Can someone enlighten me please.
Paul
From: TJ63◘ Sent: 3/17/2006
If you go off-route and the Quest needs to recalculate, it has the data to be able to do so, along with the maps.
I presume that if you don't include the data, it won't be able to work out a new route if you go wrong somewhere.
Trevor
From: Ghotí Sent: 3/17/2006
I presume that if you don't include the data, it won't be able to work out a new route if you go wrong somewhere.
Not sure TJ. If it can work the route out in the first place without the route calculation data, then I would have thought it could work out a revised route.
I may have to go and get lost a couple of times over the weekend and see what happens.
I assume that the last time I downloaded the maps I did not have the box ticked as I had on a Quest the whole of the UK and a bit of France, which would fill the memory without the calculation data! Manual for Mapsource, City Select, City Navigator and Quest all appear to be no help either.
Paul
From: TJ63◘ Sent: 3/17/2006
I would check, Paul. I've got mainland UK and Normandy/Brittany in mine with the routing data.
Trevor
From: DD-FJR Sent: 3/18/2006
Ghoti
I have everything loaded on to my Quest Whole of UK and ALL of Europe
Never had a problem with it and it re-calc's everytime without problem.
I have use the Quest to get from Poole to the Alps (with a few wrong turns on the way ) it has re-calculated everytime (within seconds) and got us back on route.
We did this by planning the route on the PC and then downloading it onto the Quest.
Never had a problem so far, apart from councils turning 2 way roads into one way roads and not telling Garmin about it
HTH
Colin
From: TJ63◘ Sent: 3/20/2006
Have you got a different map set to us then, Colin? Mine is City Navigator 8, and I can't even get the whole of France on.
Yours isn't a Quest 2 is it?
Trevor
From: Ghotí Sent: 3/20/2006
OK, I very confused now.
Apparently (according to Garmin), the Quest has 115mb memory.
The whole of mainland UK with route options (City Navigator v8 like TJ) is approx 160mb and without route options it is 105mb (this is why I assumed I had no route options on last time I loaded the maps up).
BUT, I have reinstalled mainland UK with route options at 160mb and the Quest appears to have accepted it, so I may have had the route options on before.
Unless it does not accept the route options and does not tell me that it has filled its memory.
Can anybody enlighten?
Paul
From: FazerM40Man1 Sent: 3/20/2006
Ghoti - maybe you have the 243mb version??
From: Ghotí Sent: 3/20/2006
There is a 243mb version??? That may explain some things. Thanks Martin.
But what does the route calculation bit do as the Quest definately calculates routes even without that bit tcked when you down load the maps.
Paul
From: FazerM40Man1 Sent: 3/20/2006
Could be rubbish, Paul - but looking around on Ebay etc, I've seen Quests advertised with both memory configs.
243 also seems to be the memory on the Quest2 & Quest V8, (V8 around £290 - so sounds like a Quest, rahter than a Quest2 which is a lot dearer.)
I've been looking here:
www.mynewcheap.co.uk/products/details/garmin-quest-v8/1586/
amongst other places!
From: Ghotí Sent: 3/20/2006
That is a Quest. The V8 refers to the software it comes with (ie CityNavigator V8). It does say 243mb.
Garmin says 115mb (http://www.garmin.com/products/quest/).
I'll try putting 250mb on it tonight and see if I can not blow it up somehow.
Paul
From: molestrangler900 Sent: 3/20/2006
Hi Guys,
Been looking at one of these myself and from what I understand the 115mb memory units are for the US market, the 243mb units for Europe.
Ian
From: Ghotí Sent: 3/21/2006
Thanks Ian and Martin.
Having 243mb memory explain half of the issue (ie perhaps I did have route caluclating abilities downloaded).
But, the test I did last week difinatley included a download without these abilities.
Oh well, back to filling the memory again!
Thanks all
Paul
From: Tigger Sent: 3/21/2006
Hi paul
'Portability meets versatility with 243 megabytes of extra map memory' is the quote straight off the back of my Garmin box. I thought 115 sounded low so I dug the box out to check
HTH
Matt
From: Ghotí Sent: 3/22/2006
Thanks Matt,
I had to download the instruction booklet so I guess I got the USA version rather than the European version.
Still would like to know what extra gets downloaded with that box ticked and what it does to the unit in the real world.
Paul
From: DD-FJR Sent: 3/24/2006
Sorry for the delay in replying
Mine is the 248Mb one as well.
Talking to Garmin Tech Help they say that when you tick that little box,
"You are downloading information like Petrol Stations, ATM's, Cinemas etc etc
Some people don't like having them on the Quest as it does slow it down as the screen re-draws (at 500ft scale and under) as it has to take into account the icons for the above"
Now I can't see what else it can be Paul !
As I said before, when I first got my Quest and loaded up the PC with the software I ticked every box for everything to be loaded onto the Quest.
Its never had a problem and has always got me to where I wanted to go without fail.
I sometimes work out routes on the PC and load them onto the Quest (but not very often though) and its always worked OK.
HTH
Colin
From: DD-FJR Sent: 3/24/2006
Sorry the above should read 243Mb
From: DD-FJR Sent: 3/24/2006
PPS:
She also said that this ONLY applies to the USA Model and NOT the UK Spec Model that was designed to take the whole of the UK & Europe in its Database.
The American Model was designed to take only certain parts of the USA and you had to purchase extra discs (Maps) for other parts of the USA
Sorry I was trying to take notes while I was talking to her and I can hardly read my own writing
Colin
From: Ghotí Sent: 3/24/2006
Mmmm,
Thanks Colin, but you have now confused me even more.
How the the Quest be helped with route finding by knowing where petrol stations etc are?
If it is only for the USA, why does this tick box mean that 50% extra memory is required?
Is there an email address for UK help? I could not find one in the Garmin site.
Now I know I have more memory than I thought, I'll just tick the box and download it all I think. I'm giving up on this one I think and I'll just accept that the box is there!
Paul
From: DD-FJR Sent: 3/24/2006
www.garmin.com/contactUs/techSupport.jsp
There is no email address Paul
But try the above page as it goes direct to there support dept :-)
Colin
PS: They are very good at getting a reply of fairly quick to
From: Ghotí Sent: 4/26/2006
A reply:
Hello,
If route calculation is ticked then it will give you turn by turn instructions.
If the box is not ticked then the routing will not be turn by turn instruction ie it will say head north east.
Thank you
If you have any further questions please let me know.
Regards,
Greg Vulinovic
Sales Support Associate
Garmin (Europe) Ltd
So there we have it!
Paul
From: DD-FJR Sent: 4/27/2006
Ok.
She must of thought it was a different box then