Loss of power :-(

[jayc891]

So...like some people have done in the past I have done also, I shall explain my tail of woe.

I was out riding with mate after doing the long haul from the midlands to surrey nothing unusual...;-) but my oil seemed a bit low, I was getting a little rattle and noticed the oil had dropped to about half way. So I stopped off at halfords good old halfords......that one is up for debate. I brought a five litter...yes people you know whats coming, I was distracted by my mate chatting (not his fault) and yup, in the bottle went (bare in mind this is only my second bike and my first ever big bike) so a 32000cm3 became full to the breaking point......now I did an even more stupid thing by starting it and jumping on it to ride.....100yards if that...SMOKE SCREEN and the car behind did not like this at all realizing this I slung it to the side of the road, I got my tools out (as i do carry some with me) and if by magic the oil drained (some) tried to start nope nothing, phoned for recovery (obviously nothing they can do) Then the nice man that he was has a playful mock at me lol feel free ;-) he explained if its in the air filter its a big job and boom its in the air filter....after getting to my GF I took the air filter out ---- W*NK'D aint the word.....Cleaned sparks, complete oil drain, ran engine for like half a min to clear top head out - was advised to by GF's Dad. (gotta say its funny seeing oil fly out the spark holes haha. So it was completely drained....put some oil back in and left air filter out - was in petrol to get rid of oil... (i had to get to an interview in London) so I did that and it was running fine par my indicator breaking and speedo conking out ?? (random I know) so yes got it back to GF's then stuff started going wrong..like WRONG...I replaced the air filter for a new one instead of using old one as.. I now have no acceleration it conks out some times around 3000rpm - this is just in first gear as far as I know did not want to keep trying....I have looked around for a leak and nothing I also have a nasty rattle like a tick.... if anyone could explain to me the following things:

what the hell is going on with it
how do i fix it - IMPORTANT got second interview for like my dream job (dose not include working on bikes your all fine)
why dont these bikes have dip sticks lol
what could be up with speedo as that not reading either

PS I am just about to check air filter again just in case any oil settled and is now messing up my new filter.

Thank you for any help

J

[jayc891]

Air filter is still Clean...

[crickleymal]

Well the conking out at 3000 could be the air filter box not being screwed back together properly maybe. I'm a little bit amazed that you managed to get 5 litres into a 2.5 litre space so my best guess is you've broken some internal seal or shagged a piston ring or two.
I'm guessing the speedo is coincidental.

[jayc891]

crickleymal

Thank you for reply, I will check all screws and see if that's the issue, I have also been instructed to blow ;-) all pipes that have come in contact with oil, so every one coming off the air filter.

Thank you for a reply

If its not air filter what would be the first thing you would check?

J

[crickleymal]

I don't know I'm afraid, the one and only time something like this happened to me a con rod came through the side of the engine so it was obvious 😀.

[GAv]

I doubt overfilling with oil would cause something that drastic but I could be wrong. My Aprilia 125 I was aiming to do the C to C run tried bucking me off after the rear wheel locked thrice.
I had pinched some parts from my other unrestricted one temporarily out of the Tardis Shed, but maybe had been happily smokin around for 20 years on under 14 BHP _learner legal,then releasing the full 33.3 was maybe too much for the ol gal, and a guy who heard my coming down the road then a squeal of the tyre,after said had  thought as he rushed out of a side turning ,to be seeing someone lying in the road, nope already did that on another Rotax engined Ape( 1000)

however he offered the use of tools, two cans of Coke, a trickle charger but also was a bit of a profit of doom ( albeit a very helpful generous one)as he reckoned the RS 125 he had before his KTM he was fettling when breaking off to help me, was going really well just before it threw a rod.
I only ever had a stroker seize or any bike for that matter but that was a rice burner under warrantee. A later KHWould often go from running on 3 to 2 pots quite regularly, but after getting nicked and dumped in a brook, ran on none as it didn't care for water cooling.

On mine part of the problem was the starter bolts had worked loose and after recleaning the carb jets and refitting the Venturi she started up. Probably the battery wasn't fully charged as I had not had any food so went into Harwich but it stopped again, refired on the hill down to the lights and stopped again.
Another Good Samaritan got his son to hold his bicycle tried several times to push start it but it fired the stalled again, by this time outside a cafe opposite the train station.

Whilst ordering me a cab I bought a pasty, got home, ate the pasty and had a coffee before hitching my trailer to my car and the cafe owner helped steady the bike after It started immediately with a fully charged spare battery ,so could be run up the ramps onto the middle run of the trailer.
Thus secured I dropped it off at my lockup, and although it's started fine since ,with fully charged battery s ,as soon as it is off choke has to be revved otherwise it stalls, but I haven't had the bottle to ride it since. I SORNED it when the Insurance ran out, so another of many now not road legal bikes in the Collection! For future reference.

I reckon the overfilling on yours may have caused the crankcase breather to either get blocked or simply flooded the crank case itself so try draining off all the oil, engine flush can help, change the oil filter and air cleaner, plugs before topping up with fresh oil.
I know this means more expense- I used 3 cans worth before actually getting the head gasket seated properly on a old car.
Don't most bikes have a transparent oil level window, some even have short dipsticks( as long as I don't prove to be one, with these tips, advices, clutching at straws) so hope you get it sorted relatively easily.

[Ken]

Sept 23, 2016 11:39:43 GMT jayc891 said:

I also have a nasty rattle like a tick....

That may be a broken speedo cable and would explain why the speedo has stopped working.

Sept 23, 2016 11:39:43 GMT jayc891 said:

why dont these bikes have dip sticks

There is an oil level window below the oil filler. The Oil level should be half way up the window when the bike is upright.