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Post by PrincessPunk on May 19, 2016 12:04:32 GMT
Since there is what is thought to be a problem with the gearing of the bike; you know the story, everyone saying it should have another gear, a longer 5th gear, etc. is there a way to remedy this at all? like a wheel conversion, a larger radius tyre that fits well, new final drive gears? anything like that that lowers the revs at motorway speeds.
i dont much give a damn about the speedo reading wrong (since my speedo reads wrong anyway) or any of that jazz. i'd just appreciate less buzz in my ears and my hands! also a little extra fuel economy at the expense of acceleration wouldn't bother me much either, i did not buy a divvy to be rocketing around like i did on my last bike! (actually bought a bike specifically very unlike my last bike). I'm looking into other things such as at 45000 miles it probably needs a little balancing, valve clearances, carb cleaning, higher octane/less ethanol fuel, to get the bike running smoothly but i think just a little lower revs at 70(ish) would be appreciated.
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Post by spike240 on May 19, 2016 12:19:30 GMT
I know exactly what you mean. I have had my D9 for over twenty years and still looking for another gear. (mind you, some on here might say its my age. I think you might have to learn to live with it. I have never heard of anyone changing the gearing, but hey if you find a way - let us know. ATB
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Post by HRHpenfold on May 19, 2016 12:32:35 GMT
Since there is what is thought to be a problem with the gearing of the bike; you know the story, everyone saying it should have another gear, a longer 5th gear, etc. is there a way to remedy this at all? like a wheel conversion, a larger radius tyre that fits well, new final drive gears? anything like that that lowers the revs at motorway speeds. i dont much give a damn about the speedo reading wrong (since my speedo reads wrong anyway) or any of that jazz. i'd just appreciate less buzz in my ears and my hands! also a little extra fuel economy at the expense of acceleration wouldn't bother me much either, i did not buy a divvy to be rocketing around like i did on my last bike! (actually bought a bike specifically very unlike my last bike). I'm looking into other things such as at 45000 miles it probably needs a little balancing, valve clearances, carb cleaning, higher octane/less ethanol fuel, to get the bike running smoothly but i think just a little lower revs at 70(ish) would be appreciated. you could fit a 160/70/17 rear, but that's not going to change much in the way of diameter, like anything, it is possible, but only if you have access to some exotic engineering machinery or knowledge, or can pay someone else, it's certainly not easy, in my experience you need to avoid the 4500rpm buzz, by either going faster, or dropping it into 4th
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Post by bev on May 19, 2016 13:10:49 GMT
I don't understand the buzzing. What type of tyres do you have on, properly inflated ? showing wear ? Or use your right hand to take it out of the buzzing zone.
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Post by chris900divvy on May 19, 2016 14:11:11 GMT
Personally I like the way the bike feels like its ready to just surge forward at 70 in just the right part of the rev range for easy overtaking, but can see how it also feels like it could do with a higher top gear in addition like a 6th overdrive. My ZRX1200 is exactly the same though if not more so forever looking for 7th on the motorway! The Diversion isn't a particularly revvy bike though its all mid range go. I suppose if there were gears from a different bike which would fit the gearbox and give different ratios that would be a start but I'm not aware of any. I think the same bevel box is used on different Yamahas though - V-Max, FJR and other cruisers all seem to have a very similar looking shaft maybe you could acquire one of those and have an experiment? Have no idea what difference there would be in overall gearing if any though...
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Post by PrincessPunk on May 19, 2016 19:56:20 GMT
thanks for the input i'll go through post by post spike240 thats pretty cool that you've have your divvy for so long although a shame theres no 6th if i do come across anything i will definitely let you know HRHpenfold i was thinking that with the tyre, i might give it a go when i need to replace the tyre, without anyone saying it definitely helps i'm not chucking a perfectly good tyre! haha. i might look into if an engineer could whip something up, you never know that is pretty unfortunate that it seems 4000-4500 revs is like bang on 70 for me! so yeah, might cheat a bit, although as it stands, after taking a year off even 60mph feels like lightspeed Bev, i think a lot of the buzzing could be the lack of bar weights, i've stuck a couple bolts on though with some washers and it has helped a bit seemingly chris900divvy that ready power at 70 is pretty sweet and very enjoyable, but a quick downshift couldnt hurt, you know? haha an overdrive would be pretty sweet if there is such a thing as an aftermarket one for motorcycles, i know there are for cars so maybe its a thing i know the vmax uses something similar because people keep knicking the wheels of divvys to convert their little 15 inch rear to a 17 (i believe using a conversion kit so thats promising) and making the back wheel for divvys disproportionately super expensive compared to other parts. i'm going to look into this though, might be able to pick up a shaft or bevel gear off another yamaha or failing that i could try another make queue me wandering around a breakers yard for days haha
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Post by GAv on May 20, 2016 1:31:59 GMT
Car overdrive units fit behind gearboxes and deploy a shorter propshaft not dissimilar to a Tractor or Land Rover high and low ranges or the old splitter boxes Trucks used to have, and some still do where say you had an eight speed with a splitter you would have to go up through the first eight then with non syncro box and change to higher ratio and go through the whole thing all over again, and especially if forced to slow down or stop. Car overdrives were effecively a second ratio unlike some excotic thirties cars that had twin speed axles, and generally activated by a switch, I dont recall any front wheel drive cars they were fitted to, but I could be wrong and five speed boxes became more fashionable Single seater race cars used to have straight cut gears with no syncro but like a bike you could change without deploying the clutch(and left foot brake)so the wooses now have all electonic gubbins and yes some bikes, the Aprilia Mana comes to mind, not only shared its engine with The Ape 850 and Gilera 800 Scooters but a rubber band drive but in a proper bike frame,however the scoots only have button changes whereas the Mana has three settings rain, cruise and sports mode, with an option to use the foot change. Drag bikes especially nitrus oxide charged ones have air gearchanges to get then down the strip that bit quicker, blown the speeds blow my mind. Maybe the Divvy with its shaft drive would have been too long or the driveshaft too short, if they jammed another ration in there, but the brief time I had one I was forever trying for sixth, but then on my now written off Ape Futura and despite its quick shifter, the Mille I'm never sure whether there should be another one to go, however I think the XJ600 is great with six ratios, now I fitted the new clutch cable which it came with but the gears are upside down and I had been riding it before my Aprilia Accident not that that was anyones but my fault, but I seem to recall I had changed up into 2nd round the corner at te end of this road, aproaching the TJunction and there was a car a fair way away to the left and a nasty corner to the right, vehicles whip around, and I seem to recal giving it revs as it didnt move forward quickly enough and the car was bearing down then I may have kicked it down to first OK thats irrelevant to this except the insurance did give a buy back price, but I'm putting it toward an MV framed Suzuki VTwin engined Cagiva V Raptor I have wanted for some time now which is still fast but has a more comfy riding position than the Mille (as the Yanks used to say theres no substitute for cubic inches. I think 900 Divvies are fast enough 0-60 in 3.9 seconds (supercar territory and 138 MPH, from a contempory test of one, ) but its all relative the Ape Mille will do 60 in half that time with its power commander 3 and remapping which as well as its ultimate unexplored top end end very few Cars this side of a Million quid hyper car can stay with,put it on a Brit Superbike track and it would be well out of its depth though. people seem to think the XJ900s will be the last away from the lights, because they are deemed heavyweights which they, try dropping one, twice like wot I done, are but they have a fair turn of speed and are really a long distance flogger designed to run indefinately at Motorway speeds(obviously betwixt and general all around workhorse. THe reason bikes dont have syncromesh is that they are sequential and would have to have an H Pattern you would need a car like gear lever and nob, so like bikes in the old days, particularly American ones which had a foot clutch and gear lever on the tanks, but still only fore and aft because a car like gearbox would make them too wide-OK Brough Superior did deploy Austin seven engines and gearboxes and twin rear wheels for their sidecar models, and often cars would be offered in the fifties sixtees with an overdrive option as they were only 3 speeds. My Dad had two big Wolseleys with semi automatic Overdrives and then a Jag with a flick switch. I only ever had one overdrive car and that was a Triumph Dolomite with a switch on the gearlever nob and it worked on second third and fourth and if my Math is correct effectively had 7 gears. I have driven a relatives Jaguar several times and I think it has 8 gears, kickdown and paddles but so much power and torque from its twi Turbo Diesel V6 it seems a bit over the top.so its all relative to how you want to ride or drive and you wanna go balls out(sorry not you PP)get a faster bike..
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Post by bev on May 20, 2016 6:14:27 GMT
A D9 requires bar ends. It is a very forgiving bike for the less experienced rider, I always thought a 6th gear would have been better but to be fair it performs fairly well without one. For those who keep looking for a 6th gear on their D9 I only have one bit of advice. Learn to count to 5
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Post by HRHpenfold on May 20, 2016 7:48:57 GMT
Car overdrive units fit behind gearboxes and deploy a shorter propshaft not dissimilar to a Tractor or Land Rover high and low ranges or the old splitter boxes Trucks used to have, and some still do where say you had an eight speed with a splitter you would have to go up through the first eight then with non syncro box and change to higher ratio and go through the whole thing all over again, and especially if forced to slow down or stop. Car overdrives were effecively a second ratio unlike some excotic thirties cars that had twin speed axles, and generally activated by a switch, I dont recall any front wheel drive cars they were fitted to, but I could be wrong and five speed boxes became more fashionable Single seater race cars used to have straight cut gears with no syncro but like a bike you could change without deploying the clutch(and left foot brake)so the wooses now have all electonic gubbins and yes some bikes, the Aprilia Mana comes to mind, not only shared its engine with The Ape 850 and Gilera 800 Scooters but a rubber band drive but in a proper bike frame,however the scoots only have button changes whereas the Mana has three settings rain, cruise and sports mode, with an option to use the foot change. Drag bikes especially nitrus oxide charged ones have air gearchanges to get then down the strip that bit quicker, blown the speeds blow my mind. Maybe the Divvy with its shaft drive would have been too long or the driveshaft too short, if they jammed another ration in there, but the brief time I had one I was forever trying for sixth, but then on my now written off Ape Futura and despite its quick shifter, the Mille I'm never sure whether there should be another one to go, however I think the XJ600 is great with six ratios, now I fitted the new clutch cable which it came with but the gears are upside down and I had been riding it before my Aprilia Accident not that that was anyones but my fault, but I seem to recall I had changed up into 2nd round the corner at te end of this road, aproaching the TJunction and there was a car a fair way away to the left and a nasty corner to the right, vehicles whip around, and I seem to recal giving it revs as it didnt move forward quickly enough and the car was bearing down then I may have kicked it down to first OK thats irrelevant to this except the insurance did give a buy back price, but I'm putting it toward an MV framed Suzuki VTwin engined Cagiva V Raptor I have wanted for some time now which is still fast but has a more comfy riding position than the Mille (as the Yanks used to say theres no substitute for cubic inches. I think 900 Divvies are fast enough 0-60 in 3.9 seconds (supercar territory and 138 MPH, from a contempory test of one, ) but its all relative the Ape Mille will do 60 in half that time with its power commander 3 and remapping which as well as its ultimate unexplored top end end very few Cars this side of a Million quid hyper car can stay with,put it on a Brit Superbike track and it would be well out of its depth though. people seem to think the XJ900s will be the last away from the lights, because they are deemed heavyweights which they, try dropping one, twice like wot I done, are but they have a fair turn of speed and are really a long distance flogger designed to run indefinately at Motorway speeds(obviously betwixt and general all around workhorse. THe reason bikes dont have syncromesh is that they are sequential and would have to have an H Pattern you would need a car like gear lever and nob, so like bikes in the old days, particularly American ones which had a foot clutch and gear lever on the tanks, but still only fore and aft because a car like gearbox would make them too wide-OK Brough Superior did deploy Austin seven engines and gearboxes and twin rear wheels for their sidecar models, and often cars would be offered in the fifties sixtees with an overdrive option as they were only 3 speeds. My Dad had two big Wolseleys with semi automatic Overdrives and then a Jag with a flick switch. I only ever had one overdrive car and that was a Triumph Dolomite with a switch on the gearlever nob and it worked on second third and fourth and if my Math is correct effectively had 7 gears. I have driven a relatives Jaguar several times and I think it has 8 gears, kickdown and paddles but so much power and torque from its twi Turbo Diesel V6 it seems a bit over the top.so its all relative to how you want to ride or drive and you wanna go balls out(sorry not you PP)get a faster bike.. The reason bikes don't have syncromesh, is because bikes have constant mesh gearboxes, the gears are meshed all the time, they use engagement dogs on the side of the gears which lock the gear to the shaft in order to transmit the power, all the gears spin constantly, they are sometimes called dog boxes, it's the dog's meshing that causes the clunk as you put it into first, and worn dogs are the reason that D9's can jump out of second
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Post by chris900divvy on May 20, 2016 12:59:24 GMT
'I think 900 Divvies are fast enough 0-60 in 3.9 seconds (supercar territory and 138 MPH, from a contempory test of one, ) but its all relative the Ape Mille will do 60 in half that time with its power commander 3 and remapping which as well as its ultimate unexplored top end end very few Cars this side of a Million quid hyper car can stay with,put it on a Brit Superbike track and it would be well out of its depth though. people seem to think the XJ900s will be the last away from the lights, because they are deemed heavyweights which they, try dropping one, twice like wot I done, are but they have a fair turn of speed and are really a long distance flogger designed to run indefinately at Motorway speeds(obviously betwixt and general all around workhorse.' gav
Of course they're fast enough, they're only 'slow' in comparison to other sportier bikes really. In terms of real world traffic they're ahead of most things up to a certain speed, and besides how eager do you want to be to lose your license? My Kawasaki ZRX1200 is certainly a faster bike but it has a totally different nature and doesn't have the same indestructible feel as the Diversion, the Diversion is just a solid use for everything bike that doesn't let you down. As a bike for covering distances on comfortably carrying whatever crap you might want to carry they excel. No plans to get rid of mine as having had the Kawasaki 4 years alongside it I can well appreciate the Yamaha's reliability! But the ZRX just wins for hooning about on!
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Post by PrincessPunk on May 20, 2016 13:22:18 GMT
A D9 requires bar ends. It is a very forgiving bike for the less experienced rider, I always thought a 6th gear would have been better but to be fair it performs fairly well without one. For those who keep looking for a 6th gear on their D9 I only have one bit of advice. Learn to count to 5 i was thinkign that, the handlebars are quite heavy in bends i think, which is nice but i'm not that buff haha, a little extra to the bars wouldn't go amiss! the screw thread inside my bars looks enormous though and i'm prety sure theyre the stock bars so i messaged someone selling a set and they said the thread on the weights is 16mm. i think it might fit but does that sounds right to you? i just want to make more of an educated leap before spending the £20 It really is a phenomenally easy bike to ride, i was seriously surprised! compared to my other bikes over the past 16 years i was thinking a bike so heavy would maybe be a bit of a handful but its really a breeze you make a good point, it does perform well without one and i've made a decision to try take the more scenic route places along A roads and enjoy the ride instead of mind numbing motorway miles buzzing along at high revs i thought it might be worth trying to squeeze a little more miles out of a tank but doing so might affect that performance so i tihkn i'll just enjoy its quirks on the twisties
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Post by mlbv on May 20, 2016 16:26:55 GMT
gearing is a complicated issue.... especially when going fast....
i looked into a taller fifth gear on my van as i can take it just about up to the rev limiter... the idea was to give me a lower motorway cruising rpm, however, this would actually have meant an increase in fuel consumption....
i'll explain....
lets say it takes 50 horse power to push my van through the air at 70mph, the engine is doing 2500 rpm and as the engine only has a certain efficiency at those rpm, it uses a certain amount of fuel to produce that 50 horse power... now, lets say we fit a taller fifth meaning it is only doing 2250 rpm at 70, it still needs to produce 50 horse power, but the lower rpm makes it even less efficient at producing that power so you need to chuck more fuel in to achieve it... the extra fuel needed to produce the power outweighs any benefits gained by the lower rpm... for the longer gear to work out more efficient i would need to increase my cruising speed to a point where the engine is more efficient, however, as drag is one of those horrible square/cube rules, the drag increases much faster with speed, so at the higher, more efficient cruising speed for the engine, the drag that the van would be fighting against outweighs the benefit....
you will probably find that the same rules apply to the top gear on most bikes, they are geared to produce the right amount of power hit a happy balance between performance and economy at cruising speed in top (whether they have four, five or six gears)
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Post by GAv on May 20, 2016 17:24:38 GMT
Good points, I had a Suzuki GT185 that was supposedly good for 85 MPH but the gap in the gearing between fourth and fifth was such the revs would drop off and it was a job to get it past 60, as I had put a lower section Avon Roadrunner on the back and a bigger rear sprocket but it did get off the Mark like a scalded cat but just revved higher at 60. Did manage an indicated 85 down hill with a following wind, once going to Silverstone up the old A5, and at some lights a Ducatti with the rider sitting bolt upright as was his pillion, and screeched away got up to 70 and still accelerating down by the Sandpits there was a boom boom as the Ducat came past seemingly not even breaking a sweat but generally designers do get it right so I agree about even with the torque of the 900 four pot there is little need to change gear as you would with a six speeder when on the move.
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Post by satnav on May 21, 2016 21:35:24 GMT
Gav FWD cars with o/drive
Had a 90's Corolla three speed auto that had overdrive and a 2.0 litre Mondeo auto with o/drive.
Technically top gear in most cars today is an o/drive gear in any case.
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Post by GAv on May 21, 2016 22:16:10 GMT
Yep true enough, I was lent a Nissan Bluebird auto whilst my Turbo was in for service in the late eighties and that had an auto detention, but to be fair I think they called it an overdrive because it was a high cruising cog, not a separate 2 speed box as a true overdrive would be, but I could well be wrong. My Dad had a couple of big Farina Wolseleys like the cops used 6/99/6/110 and they had overdrive available in all 3 gears and boy did my Father use it exploiting the kick down as they had an oval nob to engage! And a kick down like an auto to disengage as well as the switch. Ton up cars on the de restricted roads of the day( except 30 MPH in villages and towns. The Dolomite briefly owned had overdrive on the gear nob giving overdrive on second third and forth but it sometimes had a mind of its own,like snapping out of overdrive top, down the slip road at Waltham Abbey off the M 25 and whilst I was slowing down to simply change to third direct, I hadn't sufficiently( OK maybe going too fast)the car nearly went sideways.
At the moment I could do with an auto and the accelerator on the left. My mate over the road is gonna tow my trailer to pick up a Cagiva I have bought, as I do not think I can drive to Brentwood and back , it will be a while till I can ride it . However since chatting to a lad with a VRaptor last year, I have fancied one, and a whole MV is out of my reach, so much for scaling down, but this one looked too good to miss and my Futura has been written off so it isn't one more.
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Post by bobh on May 25, 2016 16:50:39 GMT
gearing is a complicated issue.... especially when going fast.... i looked into a taller fifth gear on my van as i can take it just about up to the rev limiter... the idea was to give me a lower motorway cruising rpm, however, this would actually have meant an increase in fuel consumption.... i'll explain.... lets say it takes 50 horse power to push my van through the air at 70mph, the engine is doing 2500 rpm and as the engine only has a certain efficiency at those rpm, it uses a certain amount of fuel to produce that 50 horse power... now, lets say we fit a taller fifth meaning it is only doing 2250 rpm at 70, it still needs to produce 50 horse power, but the lower rpm makes it even less efficient at producing that power so you need to chuck more fuel in to achieve it... the extra fuel needed to produce the power outweighs any benefits gained by the lower rpm... for the longer gear to work out more efficient i would need to increase my cruising speed to a point where the engine is more efficient, however, as drag is one of those horrible square/cube rules, the drag increases much faster with speed, so at the higher, more efficient cruising speed for the engine, the drag that the van would be fighting against outweighs the benefit.... you will probably find that the same rules apply to the top gear on most bikes, they are geared to produce the right amount of power hit a happy balance between performance and economy at cruising speed in top (whether they have four, five or six gears) Agreed, a very tricky subject. My Mitsubishi Lancer, which has 2-litre VAG turbodiesel mechanicals and a fairly slippery body shape, is most ecenonomical in 6th gear at around 60 mph (1750 rpm), but is not much worse at anything up to 75. That tells me that the engine is at its most efficient somewhere in the low-to-mid 2000's. If I stick to these daft blanket 50's, which in a car more often than not you have to do as you're stuck behind some law-abiding pensioner (not being ageist or anything, honest), I have to drop to 5th and economy suffers. It's certainly not good in slow traffic and town work (which is where traditionally diesels have scored). I'm sure that average consumption would be better, in normal UK conditions, if the gearing were lowered a tad. As far as bikes are concerned, I recently had an associate (IAM-speak for trainee) who was using too high a gear most of the time on his Suzuki 650 V-Strom. Once I'd persuaded him to start using lower gears to keep the engine in its happy zone he reported an immediate improvement in economy. On the other hand, my recently-acquired MT-09 (as dismissed my M40man), has an on-board readout of instantaneous consumption, which I put to good use on the recent WWW when getting low on fuel. That definitely indicated that it was more economical in the highest gear that the engine was happy to pull. So with that engine, which has plenty of low-down grunt, Yamaha seem to have managed the trick of keeping good efficiency at low revs, and all without the aid of variable valve timing, Exup valves or whatevah. So I can only conclude, from that rather limited evidence, that the answer is - there is no easy answer.
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Post by mlbv on May 25, 2016 17:04:02 GMT
ah... the thing is, you don't really need much power anyway at lower speeds, the effects of drag don't really become apparent until you are going above about 60mph, so it doesn't matter that the engine can only produce 10hp in top at mph, becayse you only need 2 hp to maintain that speed ... you will find that if you encounter drag from (say) a hill, the bike's economy will be down in it's boots as you try to maintan your speed, but inevitably, you fall short of the 15 heese required and have to drop a cog...
have a study of the changes to the instant mpg reading just to change the speed by 5mph (inertial drag) or to go up a decent sized hill at a constant speed..
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Post by GAv on May 25, 2016 21:02:21 GMT
Well I think you do need power and or torque say 650/1000 cc with not only a rider but often pillion passenger on a sports bike sitting high up and acting like a sail directly pointing into the wind, do the same thing on a Honda 125 CBR and you would be playing high pitched tunes on engine with the six seed gearbox. I am big and had a little Bankok made In a dedicated Honda factory, called a Hoda Sonic Nova RS , an under one design very popular over there where folk don't grow like us over fed Europeans, which had a CBR 125 but only 5 gears, it wouldn't do more than 60 albeit one of the very few owners I encountered in this country, a Vicar reckoned he could get 85 down hill on his one,and when I mentioned weight he was tipping the scales at 17 stone around what I was back then, so maybe the engine was still tight on my one. I actually sold it to a French guy who owned one when he lived in Thailand, and was residing in London when he came up to North Essex in a hired van having bought it site unseen off the net. I did make a tiny profit however... you are actually correct about how much more power is needed to get an object through the air, as record breaking cars prewar often sported huge aero engines, Napier Railton, Bluebirds Leyland based babes, Goldon Arrow to name but a few. I saw Sammy Miller do a demo run in the eighties in a Saturn 3 powered Rocket car at Santa Pod achieving 320 MPH with a 3.2 second quarter mile pass. Like the two Jet engined cars at Poddington, Vampire the one Richard Hammond Chasing 300 MPH crashed in nearly fatally, the things took about 15 minutes warming up and then woos hit was all over, and top Fuellers 4500 BHP back then couldn't crack the 300 barrier and we're doing quarters in the low fours. Now over 300 even for Top Fuel Funny Cars and some bikes too top 300, and are in the high 3 s quite regularly over here. James May explained it in lay mans terms when briefly holding the record for a road car at 264 MPH in a Bugatti Veryan, however a test driver did 268 MPH, however Porsche 917 were good for over 240 MPH and the Ferrari V12 s even faster as was shown in the Steve McQueen film Le Mans, down the old Mulsanne Straight at La Sarthe before they plonked a chicane in it , to slow the cars down. At first the Porkers jumped all over the road till Porsche lengthened the Tain and made it cam style wth two small airstream spoilers . Then they became winners before such monsters were banned . Even so in the the early naughtiest Mark Webber found his Siver Arrows Merc doing a backflip off the circuit into the trees but won last year in a Porker after they returned so yep gearing is quite crucial. Yes I know it was obvious what I said about Divies ( no need for the rudeness incidentally, of course we all know???that sort of higorent reply, the Divvy 900 is a fast bike, my point was not it is obvious to those in the know, but not to those who see it as a big heavy old bus. I admit I was quite unprepared after sorting the brakes out ,which very nearly sorted me out before, and taking the old gal for a blast that it wasn't a million miles behind my Aprilia 1000 VTwin on initial acceleration but despite the silky smoothness of the inline four the animal grunt of the 1000vtwin was just that much more addictive, and in sixth would fair romp away with another 30 or so MPH in reserve, then the Mille with another 35 /40 BHP is even more ferocious especially with the quick shifter . The guy I just bought a V Twin Cagiva Raptor from had it Dyna tested and the Big Suzi TL 1000 is churning out 160 BHP , however when my fitness allows maybe I will be a bit more circumspect with it as she has a more sit up and beg riding style, as does my 500 Scooter which has a stator and variable gearing like DAF applied to cars, and acceleration is instantaneous with a twist of the throttle and it will do well over the ton. I have actually ridden that since my unfortunate accident.
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