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Post by bev on Apr 16, 2015 12:34:15 GMT
I bought this with the intention of doing the 100cc run in September. I picked this one because my old man had one back when I was a lad. Earned my pocket money polishing it. This one needs a bit more than polishing but I didn't buy it for an easy fix. (Just as well ) Bringing it home. Strip down started well with most pieces removing easily. Bit of a striptease really. Swingarm took more than a little persuading, drilled, ground then finally cut the damn thing off. And now we're here. Just the forks and a bit of wiring to remove before prepping for paint. A bit of work still to do but I'm not doing it to make money. Doing it to restore something that probably should have gone in the skip. It's a bit of a challenge.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 18:03:32 GMT
I can remember my old man buying one in about 1963/4 when it was called the C100. He had been running a nasty un-reliable Norman Nippy moped to his work at Fords Dagenham. He got really peed off with the moped and asked me what would be a decent reliable bike for his commute, I recommended the Honda step-through and within a week one was gracing our shed. It never let him down, praised it to anyone who'd listen. The best bike ever made.
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Post by HRHpenfold on Apr 16, 2015 18:10:47 GMT
Bit of polish and it will be good for another 50 years!
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Post by GAv on Apr 16, 2015 20:13:33 GMT
Hrm shame it's wayup in bonnie Scootland, I could do with a frame number and matching V5.
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Post by bev on Apr 16, 2015 21:23:07 GMT
Hrm shame it's wayup in bonnie Scootland, I could do with a frame number and matching V5. In your dreams, this will be returned to the road.
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Post by teejayexc on Apr 16, 2015 21:33:37 GMT
Bit of polish and it will be good for another 50 years! Can you polish a turd?
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davy
Harley Rider
AKA BEVY!
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Post by davy on Apr 17, 2015 6:21:17 GMT
Watching with interest and looking forward to getting a shot of it once pristine.
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Post by bev on Apr 17, 2015 6:24:10 GMT
Bit of polish and it will be good for another 50 years! Can you polish a turd? Check davy's VT500 thread, you can indeed polish a turd. Anyway this is a fine piece of Japanese Engineering which will be restored to its former glory.............ish. Watch this space.
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Post by HRHpenfold on Apr 18, 2015 12:16:32 GMT
I hope you putting this Saturday to good use!
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Post by bev on Apr 18, 2015 18:36:27 GMT
Yep, the Guzzi is ready for MOT. Sunday is C50 day.
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Post by satnav on Apr 18, 2015 22:58:32 GMT
Well done that man. Without people like you bikes like this would be lost to the scrap man. Yeah it's not A Guzzi or an Aprillia, but so what, it's still part of biking history.
These bikes were made without a clutch so they could be ridden with one hand, leaving the other one free to carry goods around.
Super reliable and easy to fix to boot.
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Post by GAv on Apr 18, 2015 23:47:56 GMT
Yep and they'd only managed to sell the 60 millionth one in 2008(not sure what the latest count is) my ultra rare one is currently on Fleabay.
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Post by moo on Apr 21, 2015 9:46:45 GMT
I have two of these at the moment! An Old C90ZZ and one of the newer square lampers. Join up on C90club for another great forum, plenty of advice on there! Just watch out for rot and rust around the rear mudguard, they are notorious for it! I'm rebuilding the C90ZZ at the moment, the frames been stripped, primed with zinc primer and will get a few other rust prevention treatments
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Post by GAv on Apr 21, 2015 10:19:10 GMT
I've had mine for years, I used to use it on a bit of scrub land behind our house,till the loose key dropped out of the side mounted barrel, and being an excellent electrician(not)I was left with hanging wires, and not a replacement barrel/key in sight,it kinda went into the back of the garage. There is also a C70 engined roadable pit bike(which is still favourite for the Tiddler run, as it can go outback on the car)in the shed. I put the C90 on Fleabay, spares or repair and it has umpteen watchers but no takers, as yet not really bothered either way.
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Post by HRHpenfold on Apr 21, 2015 17:03:06 GMT
Is it finished yet?
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Post by satnav on Apr 21, 2015 18:14:42 GMT
Sorry Gav but I'm not looking as I might, sorry will, be tempted. The downside of which Is I will be sleeping with it in the garage.
During some turbulent years in the 90's, the loss of my company Senator and only enough cash to buy a second hand Maestro 1.6 (which the ex wife commandeered for work) I actually borrowed one of these for a few months. Absolutely loved it.
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Post by GAv on Apr 21, 2015 20:08:52 GMT
I certainly didn't feel like sleeping with it, in fact the C 90 has only just come here, it and the Aprilia 125, not forgetting the Divi,are right outside the bedroom window. after moving a couple of years back, and no longer having a garage, some relatives stored it and 4 other bikes in the tack room, behind their stables. Even when I stayed there,had no strong desire to sleep with it, or any of the other ones(3 of which got sold last year,)or more particularly any in the vicinity of any nags?
Unlike my relatives who often sleep in their truck, with their ones, the vehicle in which they brought my bikes back in. New stables are the order of the day so horses for courses, no longer any room at the Inn. Yes that said the near new Skyteam 250 was in the spare bedroom over the winter...
Sorry to hear of your woes but there did seem an upside in the form of the Cub you borrowed...
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Post by satnav on Apr 21, 2015 23:29:13 GMT
Don't get me wrong I have no desire to sleep with it. It's just that the garage would be my new home if I bought it.
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Post by GAv on Apr 22, 2015 0:24:54 GMT
Yep see what you mean now, I thought maybe you had Been banished to the Garage It would be nice to know it had gone to a good new home ...
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Post by bev on Apr 22, 2015 6:34:17 GMT
Gav's listing or the C50 ? C50 will be a few weeks yet, we don't all have the luxury of playing with bikes while 'working' Gav, Did the C90 sell, can't find it on ebay.
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Post by bev on Apr 23, 2015 6:18:09 GMT
C50 now totally stripped apart from the shocks from out of the fork legs. Tops are so badly corroded I may have to cut them out, I'm supposing new ones aren't going to be cheap.
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Post by showaddydadito on Apr 23, 2015 6:48:14 GMT
Ahhhh . . . the legendary C50 leading link suspension.
If the front brake didn't work, you simply couldn't stop in any sensible time, if the front brake did work then the front end would rise up and skip along in an alarming boucy skid - and you still didn't stop in any sensible time.
I always found it best to choose a route and ride in a manner which never needed any quick stops.
Even that didn't always work out. My meteoric progress through the middle of the 1977 Pott Shrigley Rose Queen procession is still talked about by old men in the snug on winter evenings.
Then there was the time Steptoe's cows were just crossing the road for milking . . . how there was no blood I'll never know.
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Post by moo on Apr 23, 2015 14:37:32 GMT
C50 now totally stripped apart from the shocks from out of the fork legs. Tops are so badly corroded I may have to cut them out, I'm supposing new ones aren't going to be cheap. From the looks of it they're the early type held in with the nut at the top of the shock. Which are awfully hard to undo and remove.. If you can find a set of cheap forks from a later model, that might be better, they all fit each other
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Post by GAv on Apr 23, 2015 15:18:24 GMT
Yes Bev it is still there, with a myriad of watchers, but I seem to be selling more stuff from a boat that the dreaded rot got the better of, so at least those bits are keeping others going, including enhancing my acount. I am probably asking far to much for the c90, which may have been because perhaps I am reluctant to get shot of it. Someone came to look at the Divvy, a little while back and after muchos fathing about said what with the high mileage it wasn't the bike for him, (wot only 75,000 miles)even explained the wobbly centre stand was not unusual on the model, but he still insisted on trying, and failing to get it up. With not a rusty swing arm in site to show off, I think he just wanted somewhere to go or something to do . Then yesterday, an enquiry Fleabay urgently demanded be responded to followed by a message, from the guy interested in my Ape 1000,saying he had loads of questions, all of which I answered after he was given the go ahead, 10 I think inclusively of the my volunteering that the bike having fallen over, and how and why.(I just fitted some new RSV mirrors)Actually it looks better with those than the rather ugly pod types. Anyway he thanked me for my honesty but Apparantly none of th exacting answers ticked the right boxes.
I just thought throw a few balls into the air and see which land where. I am fortunate I do not have to sell anything, but I have ridden the Ape once since September and the Divvy 3 times since , another whim buy.
There is however an MV Augusta somewhere with my name on it but a bit of self discipline not until the fleet of 7 bikes is depleted. On the other hand ould that be a case of forking out a load of dosh and not using it. Perhaps after all a roadworthy Cub would be an ideal solution.?....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 15:46:20 GMT
" Even that didn't always work out. My meteoric progress through the middle of the 1977 Pott Shrigley Rose Queen procession is still talked about by old men in the snug on winter evenings."
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Post by m40man on Apr 23, 2015 16:52:59 GMT
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Post by GAv on Apr 23, 2015 19:19:36 GMT
I am probably asking far to much for the c90, which may have been because perhaps I am reluctant to get shot of it. Not as much as this one, I'll bet : www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-c90-G-cub-ABSOLUTELY-IMMACULATE-3500-miles-/181716370657?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2a4f23c4e1Why not put yours (or at least the Ebay link to it) in our For Sale board, you never know . Kin L, I know Classics are going up and up but like in the 90s they can come down a heck of a lot quicker. Thanks for the suggestion M8, will do The excellent brakes story, highly chuckle -worthy My old c90 has CB125 forks and disc caliper. Guess you need good stoppers with all that potential power unleashed.
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Post by GAv on Apr 24, 2015 15:59:05 GMT
I decided to set about the shed, with the aim of fishing out the Sachs and maybe the little pit bike. I finished up getting that Honda c70, bored and stroked wid a 110 top end,out and see if it would run after 2 years in the shed, but did a few jobs first, put some shorter risers on the triple trees. Make it more racey . Then found the correct key and after a little persuasion it ran on very old petrol, 3 times in fact. its out on parroll,
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Post by CD on Apr 24, 2015 19:54:24 GMT
I've recently had some steel bike parts zinc under coated with powder over the top. For that to work, the zinc has to be conductive so it's as close to galvanising as you'll get. If you can't get it zinc electro plated, this powder process could be worth a look. Powder isn't appropriate for the C50 but self etch primer (zinc/aluminium grade) and paint over will have it looking right.
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