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Post by buckinghamjf68 on Jul 31, 2014 10:17:19 GMT
Hello Guy's
Some one on another forum kindly pointed me in this direction for people with a bit more experience with the older XJ6. So thanks for giving me membership..
A little about me, I would describe myself as a novice rider as I have very little motorcycling experience, in fact I only started riding a motorcycle February 2014 but I love it. Surprisingly my new found love for motorcycles has crept into almost every aspect of my life, as if I am not riding I am normally tinkering.
And it's this tinkering that has led me to posting this thread.
I have purchased aXJ6 as a project bike, with very little mechanical knowledge I have decided to convert a1992 Diversion XJ6 into a naked streetfighter. Now given the state of the bike when I received it, the bike needed a complete strip down to the frame, a degunk, which is about where I am now.
The bike is stripped and I have ground down the fairing mount points at the front, I was planning to paint the parts myself, but have been looking at powder-coat options as I wasn't aware you could powder-coat different colours. I said i was a novice Smile
The videos on my you tube channel shows the progress also provides what I hope to do with the bike.
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7xZzPsTw6QoWNkUeiA-DaU38Fd8tAln9
Given my complete novice status, there are bound to be parts where i get stuck or just need a second opinion, which is where hopefully you guys come in. Thanks in advance...
Thanks for the membership, take care and ride safe.. |
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Post by buckinghamjf68 on Jul 31, 2014 22:00:18 GMT
you guys might be able to give me some advice.. I have been offered the front end off a FZR600, specifically yokes, forks, wheel, twin brake disks and callipers. Anyone know how much faffing around it will take to get it fitted to the XJ600?
Cheers in advance.
Jason
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Post by neilmud Lord Protector on Aug 1, 2014 1:59:26 GMT
Welcome Jason cant help wiv advice on conversions but I like the professional looking vids will keep a watch on your progress. Personally I would have just put the divi back as was & just done the work needed but its your bike & your project. BTW how did it get a years MOT wiv oil p1$$ing out of the forks  Neil |
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Post by buckinghamjf68 on Aug 1, 2014 6:47:27 GMT
Neil,
Was thinking exactly the same, MoT's on bikes has always been a bit of a mystery to me. I am always hearing of MoT passes on the basis the rider gets the work done afterwards. My brothers triumph street triple passed an MoT with several failures but the mechanic just gave him a lecture and told him not to be stupid and get it fixed ASAP.
Jason
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Post by buckinghamjf68 on Aug 1, 2014 6:57:58 GMT
Quick update, am going to pick up the complete front end of a FZR600 on Wednesday, aim will be to replace the standard divvy forks, wheel and callipers with the FZR wheel and dual disk braking system. Should be a straight swap according to www.xjrider.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=881&start=4Jason |
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Post by CD on Aug 3, 2014 14:16:06 GMT
Go for it.
You might also need the FZ handlebars and will need to make a clock support to carry the Divvy instruments.
Use the Divvy switchgear etc
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Post by buckinghamjf68 on Aug 8, 2014 21:50:05 GMT
Hi,
Apologies for the lack of updates, holiday season and all that. The new video showing progress is up as you can tell there has been a slight change of direction with the bike.
In the last update i looked at the cost of powder coating the frame tank and wheels. Whilst the cost was reasonable, it looks like it would of been a bit of a waste of money, as my first attempt at prepping the frame and tank wasnt up to scratch.
Lessons learnt, that extra time spent on prep definately pays dividends later on. Onwards and upwards, have now ground down amd primered the parts i wasnt happy with and am now ready to paint first coat.
Refurbishing wise, the brake disks, rear sprockets, callipers, engine mounts and petrol cap have been sand blasted clean which now makes me think of changing the colour scheme to a more classic colour, black and silver.
The decals for the bike are being measured Saturday, am thinking just the Yamaha emblem on tank and tail fairing and XJ600.
The video associated with the work is here:
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Post by neilmud Lord Protector on Aug 8, 2014 23:58:31 GMT
Hi, Apologies for the lack of updates, holiday season and all that. The new video showing progress is up as you can tell there has been a slight change of direction with the bike. In the last update i looked at the cost of powder coating the frame tank and wheels. Whilst the cost was reasonable, it looks like it would of been a bit of a waste of money, as my first attempt at prepping the frame and tank wasnt up to scratch. Lessons learnt, that extra time spent on prep definately pays dividends later on. Onwards and upwards, have now ground down amd primered the parts i wasnt happy with and am now ready to paint first coat. Refurbishing wise, the brake disks, rear sprockets, callipers, engine mounts and petrol cap have been sand blasted clean which now makes me think of changing the colour scheme to a more classic colour, black and silver. The decals for the bike are being measured Saturday, am thinking just the Yamaha emblem on tank and tail fairing and XJ600. The video associated with the work is here: Watched another good vid but would have thought powder coating (at a good place) would have been the way to go on the frame & with all the effort you are putting in shurely a chain & sprocket kit would not break the bank, Neil |
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Post by buckinghamjf68 on Aug 9, 2014 6:24:26 GMT
Hi Neil,
Not really thought about the chain and sprocket, I was working on the assumption of having to change it because I have put the rear wheel of the FZR on it. The refurb on the existing sprocket and chain is because they are in good condition under all that grime and at the end of the project I am going to have the main parts of a secondary bike, wheels, front end assembly, rear end assembly and kicking the idea of buying a 2nd Divy frame with V5 and making another... just an idea at this point though.
Cheers for the feedback
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Post by teejayexc on Aug 9, 2014 8:49:18 GMT
Hi Neil, Not really thought about the chain and sprocket, I was working on the assumption of having to change it because I have put the rear wheel of the FZR on it. The refurb on the existing sprocket and chain is because they are in good condition under all that grime and at the end of the project I am going to have the main parts of a secondary bike, wheels, front end assembly, rear end assembly and kicking the idea of buying a 2nd Divy frame with V5 and making another... just an idea at this point though. Cheers for the feedback Nice vids. If your in the market for a divvy frame, complete with v5, I have one cluttering up a shed. Was a naked version, frame's in red, think there's a few panels too. Trev. |
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Post by CD on Aug 9, 2014 16:01:23 GMT
If the swing arm is wide enough the FZ wheel would complete the bike's look. Check the lateral alignment.
I get ribbed for going on about powder coat, but I find its so much more durable and long lasting there is really no point faffing about with paint. I had my wheels done in 80% gloss black by CJ Ward of Burton on Trent for £25 per wheel. The bottom fork yoke cost me £10. I've now found some guys down near Totnes who give a better quality finish for a bit more cost but their business is really wheel refurbs rather than industrial coating.
The process cleans the clag away then the curing oven dries any trapped moisture so the end result is about as corosion-free under the finish as its possible to get from used parts. A good company will use a zinc passivate primer over bare steel before coating. Aluminium is usually ok shot blasted and coated over, but might need chemical stripping if the paint is really tough.
Its good under paint, just get the enamelers to lightly grit blast the coating to provide a primer key for painting.
For that head bearing inner race - angle grind a slot into it with a the most narrow cutting disc you can find. Then whack in a cold chisel to crack the old race. Done carefully you won't nick the spindle.
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Post by buckinghamjf68 on Aug 18, 2014 8:39:22 GMT
Thanks for the reply Cd, I looked at the FZR swing arm option but was apparently to wide both connection points and would need a fair amount of bodgery to get it to fit. Do you know if the FZR swing-arm would give me the option for yet another wider wheel or would it still be limited to the 18x4?
If it doesn't increase the options, I'm not sure it would be worth the bodgery unless I am missing something?
Jason
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Post by buckinghamjf68 on Aug 18, 2014 14:09:40 GMT
Hi Guys, Got some more work done over the weekend, frame is completely prepped, finally got round to removing that seized bolt, cleaned the carbs internally / externally and the clutch cover.. messed up on the forks, live and learn don't leave multiple forks lying around and if you do, make sure you double check there a pair before sand blasting  Video here: |
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Post by buckinghamjf68 on Aug 30, 2014 8:40:14 GMT
Hi, Managed to get some more done, the wheels are being a pain, started off with wanting them powder-coated, then was put off by cost per wheel and the stupidity of thinking how hard can it be. So a spare weekend with a wire brush and some Nitromors.. well least I know the answer now, if anyone ever says, do it yourself with wire brush and paint stripper... refer them to me, I have probably invested at least 3 days getting the finish I was after and I am still no where near.
So not one to be beaten, whilst I have saved money on not getting the wheels sand blasted and powder-coated and have invested 4 times that in a compressor, and a sand blasting kit. Those wheels will be shiny if it kills me.
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Post by buckinghamjf68 on Sept 7, 2014 19:27:12 GMT
Update - finally got the wheels cleaned + other bits done. Ended up buying a home sand blasting kit + compressor and made myself a sandblasting cabinet out of a shower curtain. Worked out surprisingly well. The FZR yoke is still away with a mate as he has the right tools to take the bearings off the head, the decals have been ordered and are ready to be fitted. The tank and frame will be painted next week and then start ordering the parts needed for the refit.. and that's where all the problems and advice will be needed. Any monkey can clean, it's the refit that's bound to be problematic.
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Post by m40man on Sept 13, 2014 9:00:05 GMT
....whilst I have saved money on not getting the wheels sand blasted and powder-coated and have invested 4 times that in a compressor, and a sand blasting kit. A worthwhile investment, especially if you live within travelling distance of me  . I like your approach - think about it, have a go, learn along the way. The shower curtain is a shoe-string revelation . Keep up the updates . |
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Post by buckinghamjf68 on Sept 16, 2014 18:59:50 GMT
Thanks for the reply The wheels have now been finished, in the end I had another go at them with the sand blasting, whilst I said I didn't need them perfect, the small areas of paint remains ended up winding me up over the course of the week They are about as good now if I had paid the 50-60 quid to have them done professionally. Media wise I am down to a single hopper, but not bad, given at the end of this process I would only have used £13 of media. I also took the plunge and started my rattle can spray job on the frame. Can now understand why people suggest the powder coating method of doing the frame.. The frame is complex with many angles and runs tend to occur on the mounting points if not careful. Still Hammerite smooth wasn't to bad to work with as long as you built it up over many layers, the cans recommend 2-3 but I am on 5th and still reckon I wont be happy until 6th or 7th, but these are very very light dustings, almost light the key coat at the start. Once done will apply 3 coats of clear coat and leave for a week to cure, someplace quiet. Ideally I would like to get the compressor Airgun set up for the rest of the parts. Brought a tumbler to see if I can rescue a number of the bolts, and will review / say if they are worth the money in the next vid. |
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Post by buckinghamjf68 on Oct 8, 2014 9:03:46 GMT
Update - wasn't happy with frame so took frame back to metal, also decided to take the tank back to metal and treat both for rust. Finally found a paint stripper that works like charm but needs to be handled with care..
Have now ordered all the parts needed to put the bike back together again so going through the smaller items for refurbishing whilst I wait for the frame and wheels to be completed. Also a review of the tumbler I purchased, not as good as I had hoped and all round waste of money.. maybe I need course sand..
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Post by buckinghamjf68 on Oct 8, 2014 20:15:59 GMT
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Post by buckinghamjf68 on Mar 1, 2016 9:34:59 GMT
Long time since I did an update, but the build goes on...
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