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Post by soggybiker on Aug 18, 2013 21:54:37 GMT
I was planning on posting up a run round Exmoor this year. Life has kind of got in the way and I am still on notice to travel so thats not going to happen.
I was asked today If I was organising a run round Somerset this year. If there is interest I will get something organised for the end of september(ish). It will be a Sunday run taking in some of Gloucestershire and touching on North
Somerset and winding up back in Gloucester. I will miss out a lot of the single track stuff, farmyards and dry streambeds as that didn't seem to go down so well last time. However to let some of you get out
of second gear I could do with someone to lead for half the run while I would backmark. I can get the route planned and in whatever electronic form is needed, but as today reminded me it is hard work trying to Keep up on a tired old 600. Any volunteers?
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Post by Flymo on Aug 18, 2013 22:17:34 GMT
but as today reminded me it is hard work trying to Keep up on a tired old 600. Any volunteers? Your Just not thrashing it hard enough ! |
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Post by Pool Boy on Aug 18, 2013 22:28:19 GMT
Given a Garmin (.gpx) file, I'll lead anywhere
[Subject to date confirmation etc]
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Post by soggybiker on Aug 19, 2013 8:39:07 GMT
Even without taking my mediocre riding skills inro account I am not going to lead bigger, faster, newer, better handling and braking bikes from the front in anything like the way people were wanting to ride on Sunday using an eighteen year old D6 with 82k on the clock that I actually need to use on the Monday to get me to work. A much better Idea to back mark for the quick bits and get someone else to lead.
Thanks Poolboy I will take you up on your kind offer subject to confirmationm of date etc.
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Post by m40man on Aug 19, 2013 10:23:09 GMT
There is no need to exceed speed limits or feel the need to 'press on' when leading a run. What the runsters do behind you doesn't have much to do with the speed you're doing. They are no more responsible for your speed as you are for theirs. But there are practical stratagies for leading when you have a lower-powered bike anyway, or are inclined towards a lower pace than others. I've led on my Tranny, which had a nominal top speed around 85 but was slow to accelerate from say 50 to 75, which was at the top of it's comfortable cruising speed. At stops, don't wait for everyone to be ready before setting off,leave before the bunch, taking just two or three folks with you for early junction marking. There will then be traffic between you & many, who can entertain themselves passing the traffic, trying to catch you up if they so choose. Plan to have stops every 45 - 50 minutes. It gives folks a leg-stretch but also allows you to repeat the setting-off early routine. Also, individuals in the run, if the pace is a bit slow for them, will pull over for a few minutes anyway if they want, to create a gap. Actually, not getting the whole group setting off together is good overall advice, as it stops the first few miles after each stop being a bit of a procession. This seems to matter less on smaller runs. Back-markers have there own ways of entertaining themselves, so don't worry about them being bored at the back ;-). Above all, ride how you want, don't feel in the least bit pressured. It's your run & if you take the time to put one together, I suspect I'm not alone in being entirely grateful for the opportunity to get out & ride the roads you've selected. Lastly, keep those smaller-scale roads, narrow, even single-track, or river bed etc. Power benefits no one on those roads. Personally I love 'em  . |
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Post by teejayexc on Aug 19, 2013 10:47:07 GMT
What he said. Taking particular note of the stop every 45minute bit ;-)
sent by a dumb cnut!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2013 11:45:55 GMT
I concur.
JR13 was certainly not a race, everyone can do the run at their own pace. Leave each stop when you're ready and everyone will catch up in their own way.
In any case there's always the marker system for stragglers, though I doubt there is ever any real stragglers we don't actually ride that fast or long enough to get too strung out.
I didn't really break the speed limit on the saturday and most of the Sunday was a comfortable and enjoyable pace. A D6 could, and did, easily keep up.
Lead the run yourself. Bevy was a little apprehensive when I couldn't make the start of JR13 Sunday but he would have no qualms about leading another run.
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Post by rowlf on Aug 19, 2013 11:50:08 GMT
There is no need to exceed speed limits or feel the need to 'press on' when leading a run. What the runsters do behind you doesn't have much to do with the speed you're doing. They are no more responsible for your speed as you are for theirs. But there are practical stratagies for leading when you have a lower-powered bike anyway, or are inclined towards a lower pace than others. I've led on my Tranny, which had a nominal top speed around 85 but was slow to accelerate from say 50 to 75, which was at the top of it's comfortable cruising speed. At stops, don't wait for everyone to be ready before setting off,leave before the bunch, taking just two or three folks with you for early junction marking. There will then be traffic between you & many, who can entertain themselves passing the traffic, trying to catch you up if they so choose. Plan to have stops every 45 - 50 minutes. It gives folks a leg-stretch but also allows you to repeat the setting-off early routine. Also, individuals in the run, if the pace is a bit slow for them, will pull over for a few minutes anyway if they want, to create a gap. Actually, not getting the whole group setting off together is good overall advice, as it stops the first few miles after each stop being a bit of a procession. This seems to matter less on smaller runs. Back-markers have there own ways of entertaining themselves, so don't worry about them being bored at the back ;-). Above all, ride how you want, don't feel in the least bit pressured. It's your run & if you take the time to put one together, I suspect I'm not alone in being entirely grateful for the opportunity to get out & ride the roads you've selected. Lastly, keep those smaller-scale roads, narrow, even single-track, or river bed etc. Power benefits no one on those roads. Personally I love 'em . Short version . . . Make the b*ggers wait  |
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Post by teejayexc on Aug 19, 2013 12:26:18 GMT
In any case there's always the marker system for stragglers, though I doubt there is ever any real stragglers we don't actually ride that fast or long enough to get too strung out. . You forgot to mention the go another route option, that certainly strings the run out  sent by a dumb cnut! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2013 12:31:44 GMT
In any case there's always the marker system for stragglers, though I doubt there is ever any real stragglers we don't actually ride that fast or long enough to get too strung out. . You forgot to mention the go another route option, that certainly strings the run out You normally employ any startegy to be last one to the bar, the runsters were just helping you out.  Though to be fair your bunk buddy is the master of the long pockets short arms squad. I almost felt sorry for you that day. Almost. The shortcutters missed the delights of Dunkeld. |
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Post by Flymo on Aug 19, 2013 14:55:52 GMT
My comment about not thrashing it hard enough was meant is jest, apologies for any offense i may of caused.
Flymo
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Post by soggybiker on Aug 19, 2013 15:45:19 GMT
No Offence taken at all and some very good points have been made in the posts following on from yours, which I did take in jest.
Tagging along on a run you can just about keep up on is hard work, but my concern was more about people traveling a long way for a run that is too sedate and bores rather people than makes for a good run.
Anyways the start of September I shall have a look at routes with a provisional run date of September 29th.
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Post by neilmud Lord Protector on Aug 19, 2013 20:38:48 GMT
There is no need to exceed speed limits or feel the need to 'press on' when leading a run. What the runsters do behind you doesn't have much to do with the speed you're doing. They are no more responsible for your speed as you are for theirs. But there are practical stratagies for leading when you have a lower-powered bike anyway, or are inclined towards a lower pace than others. I've led on my Tranny, which had a nominal top speed around 85 but was slow to accelerate from say 50 to 75, which was at the top of it's comfortable cruising speed. At stops, don't wait for everyone to be ready before setting off,leave before the bunch, taking just two or three folks with you for early junction marking. There will then be traffic between you & many, who can entertain themselves passing the traffic, trying to catch you up if they so choose. Plan to have stops every 45 - 50 minutes. It gives folks a leg-stretch but also allows you to repeat the setting-off early routine. Also, individuals in the run, if the pace is a bit slow for them, will pull over for a few minutes anyway if they want, to create a gap. Actually, not getting the whole group setting off together is good overall advice, as it stops the first few miles after each stop being a bit of a procession. This seems to matter less on smaller runs. Back-markers have there own ways of entertaining themselves, so don't worry about them being bored at the back ;-). Above all, ride how you want, don't feel in the least bit pressured. It's your run & if you take the time to put one together, I suspect I'm not alone in being entirely grateful for the opportunity to get out & ride the roads you've selected. Lastly, keep those smaller-scale roads, narrow, even single-track, or river bed etc. Power benefits no one on those roads. Personally I love 'em . You didn't mention U -turns as a way to space people out/let them catch up/confuse the f*** out of them or cut the run size down by shedding a few runsters  Neil |
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Post by Welsh Ade on Aug 20, 2013 11:27:09 GMT
I was planning on posting up a run round Exmoor this year. Life has kind of got in the way and I am still on notice to travel so thats not going to happen. I was asked today If I was organising a run round Somerset this year. If there is interest I will get something organised for the end of september(ish). It will be a Sunday run taking in some of Gloucestershire and touching on North Somerset and winding up back in Gloucester. I will miss out a lot of the single track stuff, farmyards and dry streambeds as that didn't seem to go down so well last time. However to let some of you get out of second gear I could do with someone to lead for half the run while I would backmark. I can get the route planned and in whatever electronic form is needed, but as today reminded me it is hard work trying to Keep up on a tired old 600. Any volunteers? So as to get back on topic...... I would be interested in knowing more about the route etc. |
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Post by soggybiker on Aug 20, 2013 12:05:56 GMT
Probably a start just north of Groucester dropping around bristol into chedder for the obligatory gorge run and the back roads through to priddy and wells back up to WSM and ending next to junction 12 of the M5.
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Post by ContourMac on Aug 20, 2013 13:45:53 GMT
You have the attention of Debs & myself |
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Post by crickleymal on Aug 20, 2013 17:34:09 GMT
I might well be interested in keeping up at the back.
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Post by General Gman on Aug 21, 2013 5:13:43 GMT
Glos and N Somerset ? I like this.... would be worth me getting my bike back together to have a trundle before the big winter stripdown
As for worrying about the speed of the run - as Martin said, the pace of the leader bears no similarity to what goes on behind.
The people who want to go quick will look to move through the group, mark a junction and then move back through again when they're picked up by the back markers.
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Post by billywhizz on Aug 21, 2013 11:34:50 GMT
would like this also....
shame that porlock hill can't be incorporated, along with the linton/lynmouth area,
if this is definately on, anybody considering a saturday overnight in a premierin type lodge, somewhere close by??
leave it much later and the deals will have gone!!
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Post by Welsh Ade on Aug 21, 2013 11:38:57 GMT
would like this also.... shame that porlock hill can't be incorporated, along with the linton/lynmouth area, if this is definately on, anybody considering a saturday overnight in a premierin type lodge, somewhere close by?? leave it much later and the deals will have gone!! It would have to be an over night or maybe 2 for us.... |
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Post by Welsh Ade on Aug 21, 2013 11:39:45 GMT
So to book accommodation where are we starting from? and which weekend are we now taslking about?
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Post by soggybiker on Aug 21, 2013 14:23:17 GMT
Circumstances and bike issues have prevented getting the Exmoor run sorted Porlock and the lynton/lynmouth hills are on route. Along with some others I reckon on 4 hairpins on 4in 1 hills or 5 if peeps are happy to pay £2 to use 7 miles of private road. The idea was to to have a 2 day run taking in North Somerset on the Saturday and South Somerset/Exmoor on the Sunday. Maybe next year. Provisionally(as in short of breaking the bike it will happen) Sunday September 29th (9:30 start).With thought on my last post I will start and finish at the McDonalds services just off junction 12 M5 as this provides food(?) toilets and petrol at one location and is handier than a sunday start in the wilds of North Gloucestershire. I will get a route sorted and sign up sheet posted up as quick as I can, but I can't start to look at this until 2nd of September. There is a holiday inn just off junction 12 M5 (Quedgeley)which may be a starter or The little Thatch on Bristol Road. link Which has the advantage of being my local on the rare occasions I get to drink these days and 3 miles from the start. HTH Simon |
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Post by billywhizz on Aug 22, 2013 14:54:32 GMT
Hey Simon, not being critical or anything, just a shame...thats all.  You putting a route together and organising a run is very good of you, and we will enjoy it, whatever... put me down for the run, and possible saturday stay over and bimble if it occurs...(martin or I could always make our own !!) so Martin, bunking with ...flymo? me?> or somebody else ....youtart  where does we all fancy then...to book??  |
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Post by soggybiker on Aug 22, 2013 17:18:27 GMT
I am really not that thin skinned, and I agree, but think it's further south than we would get...Next year honest.
I have added you to the sign up sheet
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Post by billywhizz on Aug 22, 2013 22:23:05 GMT
cheers soggy. premierinn barnwood, £39 at the moment, next door t pub !! that link to the thatch, has one twin left!  ? |
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Post by soggybiker on Aug 22, 2013 23:09:08 GMT
Barnwood is north of town try here link£49 for a twin room for the night. |
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Post by Welsh Ade on Aug 23, 2013 19:56:34 GMT
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Post by billywhizz on Aug 24, 2013 9:19:09 GMT
well, bite the bullet and booked the premierinn barnwood!!
twin!!
NEIL>>>>>>
I appreciate the heads up soggy, but have you tasted the holidayinn breakfast,,,,good job it's free..usually, cus you wouldn't pay!
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Post by speighty on Aug 24, 2013 21:25:13 GMT
I was planning on posting up a run round Exmoor this year. Life has kind of got in the way and I am still on notice to travel so thats not going to happen. I was asked today If I was organising a run round Somerset this year. If there is interest I will get something organised for the end of september(ish). It will be a Sunday run taking in some of Gloucestershire and touching on North Somerset and winding up back in Gloucester. I will miss out a lot of the single track stuff, farmyards and dry streambeds as that didn't seem to go down so well last time. However to let some of you get out of second gear I could do with someone to lead for half the run while I would backmark. I can get the route planned and in whatever electronic form is needed, but as today reminded me it is hard work trying to Keep up on a tired old 600. Any volunteers? More than happy to volunteer.... Im certainly up for it. Chris |
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Post by speighty on Aug 25, 2013 15:09:21 GMT
Booked PremierInn at Barnwood.
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Though to be fair your bunk buddy is the master of the long pockets short arms squad. 
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