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Post by dangerman on Nov 18, 2012 11:16:30 GMT
I don't yet, but I'm looking into it.
I've got a '99 Kwak ZX9R at the moment and it doesn't quite cut the mustard so I'm after a second bike. I'm sold on an old Diversion and I want something with full hard luggage.
So tell me - what's special about XJs? Are they easy to maintain and get bits for even though they're old? Classic bikes are something I've always been scared of but a feller I know had me convinced that old yammys are the mutts nuts for owners. He's got an old '86 FJ and loves that there is a dedicated big club in Bristol.
Looking forward to getting to know everyone!
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Post by dangerman on Nov 18, 2012 11:21:53 GMT
Also, here is me falling off my bike at Oulton Park a couple of weeks ago.  |
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Post by CD on Nov 18, 2012 12:12:28 GMT
My 1997 (so its not a classic yet) 900 is up for sale very soon. 73,000 miles but well maintained. Lots of extras and powder coat where it matters. Its also a fast green one.
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Post by m40man on Nov 18, 2012 13:30:06 GMT
"Hello! I don't ride an XJ" One of the best sign-up lines I've heard ;D. Not to worry - many here don't currently ride Divvies. Personally, I've have another 900, no probs. I love 'em. Only thing holding me back is the 5 bikes I already have which I have to look after  . Mind you, I'd have a ZX9R too  . Nice pics - I'm guessing you & the bike escaped in reasonably good shape  ?
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Post by dangerman on Nov 18, 2012 14:43:45 GMT
My 1997 (so its not a classic yet) 900 is up for sale very soon. 73,000 miles but well maintained. Lots of extras and powder coat where it matters. Its also a fast green one. Thanks, I'll keep my eye on your sale situation. Not sure how soon I'll be buying one, I'm not in a rush am hoping to get some research done around the whole ownership of an old bike thing and keep my eye on prices. Also, isn't 73K worryingly high for a Yammy? I nearly bought a Fazer thou a couple of years ago and I was told by pretty much everyone I spoke to not to touch it. I've got a lot to learn I think - I hear lots of conflicting opinions over this kind of thing. |
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Post by dangerman on Nov 18, 2012 14:49:00 GMT
"Hello! I don't ride an XJ" One of the best sign-up lines I've heard ;D. Not to worry - many here don't currently ride Divvies. Personally, I've have another 900, no probs. I love 'em. Only thing holding me back is the 5 bikes I already have which I have to look after . Mind you, I'd have a ZX9R too . Nice pics - I'm guessing you & the bike escaped in reasonably good shape ? Thanks! I thought of the title myself. I rolled away from the crash unscathed - just a bit of skyfloorskyfloorskyfloorskyfloor action and then picked myself up to worry about the damage to the bike. What bikes have you got then? The Ninja is a brilliant machine, I'm keeping it for short rides out with the lads and track days in summer. It sounds great too with it's Quil can. I want a second bike, a tourer, to load the wife up on and go on long mile munching journeys. |
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Post by m40man on Nov 18, 2012 14:50:12 GMT
.... isn't 73K worryingly high for a Yammy? That'll bring the high-mileage chaps out to explain differently. (CD's is barely run-in compared to some ) I nearly bought a Fazer thou a couple of years ago and I was told by pretty much everyone I spoke to not to touch it. I'm on my second. Brilliant bikes. Who would tell you to avoid 'em? Surely not anyone who has one  . |
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Post by dangerman on Nov 18, 2012 14:54:34 GMT
Ah yeah, I forgot to write in that the Fazer had 83K on the clock - I think it still might be for sale at Millenium in St Helens...
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Post by teejayexc on Nov 18, 2012 18:04:41 GMT
Hey up and welcome, plenty of good D9's out there at all sorts of mileage. If it was me looking, I'd be more concerned about how it had been looked after rather than worrying about the mileage. Oh and nice bike, any chance of swapping the pic into your avatar from the signature line ?, makes your posts hoooooge  |
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Post by neilmud Lord Protector on Nov 18, 2012 19:49:59 GMT
" Hello! I don't ride an XJ." nor do I but I did have a D 900 & now have a Fazer 1000 I would not dissuade any one from getting either both will go on for ever, comfort about the same, some pillions prefer Divi to Fazer, Fazer stops & gos better but the Divi is no slouch and brakes are adequate & easily improved, Shaft on the Divi is great but Fazer with Scotoiler saves on lots of maintenance, Divi is dryer in the rain due to larger fairing, fuel consumption about the same unless you get silly on the Fazer.
As for luggage they both will take lots but if you get one without luggage there may be more 2nd hand choice for the divi, I decided to go for soft bags for my fazer as I didn't want frames spoiling its looks when bags/boxes not on. If you find a Divi with Divi/Krouser luggage the brackets are not noticeable when boxes are of but Givi are more likely to be available.
As Martin said I would have another D900 tomorrow if I had room & the money to spare.
Neil
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Post by dangerman on Nov 19, 2012 9:54:15 GMT
This is the thing, you see. I woke up one morning and had a wife and three kids. Now I can't afford anything and my house smells of roast dinners and flowers instead of takeaway and febreeze.
If I want to own two bikes I need buy and maintain them on the cheap. Diversions tick those boxes as long as it's not going to be a bottomless money pit or I just can't find replacement parts.
I'll try and learn a little more about what to look for in a high mileage bike. It does make sense to me that bikes should do massive mileages without hiccup, I just don't understand why some people hate high mileage bikes.
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Post by DahDit on Nov 19, 2012 10:27:49 GMT
Welcome - and with a sense of humour like that, you'll fit in well ;D You've come to a site where people don't mind doing the odd bit of maintenance (ie. fine adjustment required = lump hammer), often ride their bikes all year round in all weathers, don't mind doing a few hundred miles on a rideout and tend to keep them rather sell at the end of the year for the next, newer model. We're not too interested in the idea that you "must have" the latest model. Maybe that's why many bikes owned by those here have higher than average mileages? But we are not a unique club by any means, and neither are out bikes constantly breaking down because of it........not even mine ;D Maybe it could also be that dealers like low mileage bikes?........but what's high mileage? 15thou? 30k? 50k? Or indeed, specific to type? If it's low maintenance = no chain = D9 of course. If it's sports bike handling/power = Fazer. If it's fun, comfort and torque rather than top end = TDM. All those Yams will last well if looked after. ie. not neglected Rgds, Neil |
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Post by dangerman on Nov 20, 2012 17:53:23 GMT
Thanks Neil, you're probably right. I'll keep an open mind when I buy my next bike. |
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Post by neilmud Lord Protector on Nov 20, 2012 18:17:09 GMT
D9/fazer/TDM
I would go Fazer or D900 as the TDM is a bit of a camel (a horse designed by a committee )does it all adequately & looks like a camel ;D
Just my opinion.
Neil
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Post by dangerman on Nov 21, 2012 8:22:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 8:27:48 GMT
Plenty of extras always available. Decent price for the bike with only 50,000 on it. |
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Post by dangerman on Nov 21, 2012 8:27:58 GMT
You've come to a site where people don't mind doing the odd bit of maintenance I don't mind a bit of maintenance - I love a little bit of fiddling to be honest. I do get a bit intimidated when the spanners count higher than two on the Haynes manual though. As soon as something gets more tricky than an oil change or a brake pad change I tend to bottle it and send it to a mechanic. I can imagine most other bikers would do more than me though. |
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Post by dangerman on Nov 21, 2012 8:30:12 GMT
Plenty of extras always available. Decent price for the bike with only 50,000 on it. Where from though? I look on ebay and can rarely find anything I'm after. Either than or it's stuff that everyone wants and then the price goes nuts. |
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Post by DahDit on Nov 21, 2012 9:11:21 GMT
I do get a bit intimidated when the spanners count higher than two on the Haynes manual though. As soon as something gets more tricky than an oil change or a brake pad change I tend to bottle it and send it to a mechanic. I can imagine most other bikers would do more than me though. Not most others. Some who can afford to let someone else do it, some may love doing it.....but... Having the tools is one thing, but having the skills and confidence to tackle a job is another matter. See if you can get hold of a set of the workshop DVD's produced by "Reaper" - you get to see "your" bike have some quite significant jobs done on it and you may see that you could quite easily do them..... As regards bits, eBay, here or Gumtree are your obvious ones, but as ever it comes down to timing, supply/demand regards price. Go for Kappa bits rather than Givi, less blingy, non-colour-coded, basic or older design stuff of course. That's if price is your main concern. Good luck finding that D9 you want - hopefully the previous owner will use luggage as a selling point. |
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Post by dangerman on Nov 21, 2012 10:13:39 GMT
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Post by DahDit on Nov 21, 2012 11:59:30 GMT
Yep, stick with the 900 Or go for a Fazer/TDM rather than the 600 - coming from what you've had 2 up you might be a bit cramped and disappointed with the 600. :/ |
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Post by spikidave on Nov 21, 2012 15:14:05 GMT
The 600 isn't shaft drive and having a shaft for me is a big plus. Those panniers are only 21 litres, although they look very neat on that bike.
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Post by dangerman on Nov 21, 2012 18:30:52 GMT
Right - the search continues... |
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Post by CD on Nov 25, 2012 22:13:50 GMT
Bottomless money pit? Unlikely with a D9.
I have just fitted new clutch plates and springs for about £60 and an hour's work. The blue spot brakes cost me £80 including master cylinder. Braided hoses were going on anyway so dont count (sort of). Tyres last well unless you use really sporty rubber and cane it. My cam clearances were done at 70,000 - all but one were within tolerance and that one was only just under. Exhausts are not cheap but most have stainless systems by now. Rear shocks are the same as the early Fazer 600 so cheap on ebay, but upgrading to a Hagon really is a better bet. Wheel bearing go on for ever but are a common size so cheap to replace.
I'm selling mine because I bought a newer bike but the old D9 has loads of life left.
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Post by DahDit on Nov 25, 2012 22:48:43 GMT
Why not buy mine because I bought a newer bike but the old D9 has loads of life left. Fixed for you Seriously - you probably won't find another one on the market with *all* of the inevitably required mods already done. |
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