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Post by bigpee on Mar 12, 2012 15:22:51 GMT
Hi - I've got a problem with my chain breaker / riveting tool. I've pressed the link together and I've just gone to spread out the two pins with the rivet attachment (the other end of the breaking pin). This however has got wedged solid into the pressing plate and I can not seperate it. So far I have tried soaking in WD-40, freezer and warming it with no luck. Any ideas? For reference the tool is this one and it's the two items at the bottom of the picture that are stuck together: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/350494967423?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3046wt_1185
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Post by m40man on Mar 12, 2012 16:38:22 GMT
Wish I could help - did similar to mine, knackered it separating the bits .
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Post by bobh on Mar 12, 2012 18:17:12 GMT
Maybe grind a couple of flats on the fat part of the pin so you can hold it in a vice, then "unscrew" the plate with a spanner?
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Post by bigpee on Mar 12, 2012 19:26:12 GMT
Thanks for the replies - I think grinding some flat parts might be the only answer without cheating which is what I've done - replacement pin £8.50 on ebay. I can leave the other pin stuck to the plate and just swap round as required. Not ideal but I don't have the tools to grind away. Fortunately I don't need the bike for a week so can wait.
Very glad I changed the chain when I did - the previous chain just used a metal retaining clip on the link and this had fallen off. Nothing was stopping the link from falling out! Not sure how long I'd been riding around like that but glad I'm not using that sort of chain anymore.
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Post by bobh on Mar 12, 2012 19:42:57 GMT
The last 600 Diversion I had came with a 530 chain (on the correct 520 sprockets!). It had a rivet-type link but whoever had fitted it hadn't bothered to actually rivet it. At least it was easy to get off.
I didn't do any miles on it before sorting it, but it may well have done quite a few before I got it - the previous owner said he'd done about 4,000 on it, and made no mention of fitting a new chain during that time.
To be honest I don't see why a clip-type link shouldn't be OK on a Diversion, with its relatively low power output and smooth delivery. Though if you're going to use an O-ring chain it's a bit of a job squeezing the link together to get the clip on.
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Post by bigpee on Mar 12, 2012 22:04:17 GMT
The chain's all on now (with the exception of the riveting) but my trust has gone in the clip type links. I was using the cheap £20 chains before (used two of them) but have decided it's time to go for something a bit better and got a DID x-ring chain. Will be interesting to see if it lasts longer.
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Post by timmyboy on Mar 14, 2012 20:51:24 GMT
Hi Guys. Our local bike repairer gave me a tip on fixing chains. They never use a riveter. Just buy yourselves a couple of miniture G Clamps and a couple of 5mm Allen head bolts. Clamp up the front and back plate using the Allen head as a spacer (not too tight now) Once done get a piece of thin flat plate and clamp over the back plate leaving the soft headed piece of the new link open. Then GENTLY pien over with a small hammer. Much easier than a riveter, cheaper, and you can see what you are doing. I've done several like this and never had a problem....... and just like the proffesionals would do. Hope this helps Guys
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Post by teejayexc on Mar 23, 2012 18:34:55 GMT
Hi Guys. Our local bike repairer gave me a tip on fixing chains. They never use a riveter. Just buy yourselves a couple of miniture G Clamps and a couple of 5mm Allen head bolts. Clamp up the front and back plate using the Allen head as a spacer (not too tight now) Once done get a piece of thin flat plate and clamp over the back plate leaving the soft headed piece of the new link open. Then GENTLY pien over with a small hammer. Much easier than a riveter, cheaper, and you can see what you are doing. I've done several like this and never had a problem....... and just like the proffesionals would do. Hope this helps Guys Nice tip, if you get the 3-4" G clamps and lever the little plate off the threaded end, the little ball makes an ideal tool for spreading the rivet end open.
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Post by ContourMac on Mar 23, 2012 22:29:31 GMT
Hi Guys. Our local bike repairer gave me a tip on fixing chains. They never use a riveter. Just buy yourselves a couple of miniture G Clamps and a couple of 5mm Allen head bolts. Clamp up the front and back plate using the Allen head as a spacer (not too tight now) Once done get a piece of thin flat plate and clamp over the back plate leaving the soft headed piece of the new link open. Then GENTLY pien over with a small hammer. Much easier than a riveter, cheaper, and you can see what you are doing. I've done several like this and never had a problem....... and just like the proffesionals would do. Hope this helps Guys You can also use a 12mm 1/4 drive socket with the G-Cramp to press the plate home. Just put the ball end of the cramp in the 12mm end and as you compress the plate the pin has room to come through in the 1/4 drive space. Nice tip, if you get the 3-4" G clamps and lever the little plate off the threaded end, the little ball makes an ideal tool for spreading the rivet end open.
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