Sintered pads....

[General Gman]

So.
Fitted R1 calipers to the FZR when I bought it, they came with nearly new organic pads, so I thought I'd wait til they wore out.
I was more than happy with the braking performance, cosidering the fork seals need doing and fork oil needs to be changed.I also fitted braided lines at the same time.
I've done around 3500 miles since then, and the organic pads were worn to around 1mm, so bought some sintered pads.
Fitted em yesterday (10 mins... calipers in perfect condition, just needed to blow the brake dust off ) and well..... the brakinfg performance is awesome.The FZR with me on board weighs a lot, but the brakes are phenomenal now, and really shows up the need to do the fork seals before the scottish run...

[CD]

Do you think a Divvie 900 with Blue Spot calipers would be overbraked with sintered pads? I have some blue spots to fit and need to get pads.

[General Gman]

Well the divvy 9 is a ponderous beastie, so would think it should be fine, but not sure how it would perform with solid discs and very soft forks - you'll probably not get the full benefit without stiffening up the front significantly.It's bad enough on the FZR, diving like a mexican off a high cliff.

[cookie]

I've fitted braided hoses and sintered pads, and haven't noticed a massive improvement that I was expecting.

Lever pressure is excellent, but I can only describe them as "wooden" now - the stopping doesn't match what you would expect given the lever pressure, but I think it's the weight that's the issue (or did I get Coppaslip on the discs?)

With the (very) old rubber hoses I didn't expect so much.

Maybe I just don't grab them hard enough?

cheers
Cookie

[apricot]

Fitting sintered pads and braided hoses to my single disk frontend Divvy 6 has transformed it. It now stops lol.

I reckon the old rubber hoses were still the originals mind, and past their best at 14 years old.

A worthwhile upgrade IMHO.

Ady

[CD]

I was a bit bothered about the softer Divve 900 forks diving on the brakes. After Gurninman's experience with soft forks, I think I'll try organic pads and see how it goes. Blue spots are going to beat the pants of the standard brakes anyway.

[General Gman]

Good call - when I do the fork seals next week I'll be using heavier fork oil and will ibncrease the preload once they're on.
Should then be able to make full use of the brakes and lock the front up.

[CD]

At <30mph I can already lock the front with std Divvie brakes, but it was a panic stop when a child ran out (8ft black streak - well impressed). But I would like a bit more control and when the 80 mph m-way flow suddenly stops its nice to avoid reshaping the Mondeo bumper in front

[General Gman]

I had to use them in anger this morning, braking from 120 on the M4 - some fool had not seen the big fast thing with two headlights approaching, and pulled straight in front of me.
They work well, and would have locked up had my forks been working correctly.
As it was, the clip-ons almost battered the front spindle.

[CD]

That would be a worry - locking up at 120

Well done for avoiding the T****r. Pocket Stingers or Exocets would be handy.

I like the extra head lights folk put on Beemer GS crashbar frames, but cant find anywhere on the Divvie 9 to put something like that. The D9 headlight is not eactly imposing to oncoming traffic.

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gurninman said:

I had to use them in anger this morning, braking from 120 on the M4 - some fool had not seen the big fast thing with two headlights approaching, and pulled straight in front of me.

What GM, there was a Lorry overtaking you at the time

At least it ended well and you can get JJ to do the laundry.

[Ghoti]

chirodave said:

I like the extra head lights folk put on Beemer GS crashbar frames, but cant find anywhere on the Divvie 9 to put something like that. The D9 headlight is not eactly imposing to oncoming traffic.

A few people have used normal spots from halfrauds and fitted them under the standard light. I think Biff, DaftDivvy (or Daft FJR (or just Daft )) and M40Man have done it. Pictures on the old site somewhere.

[apricot]

"The D9 headlight is not eactly imposing to oncoming traffic. "

Compared to the D6's its like a lighthouse

Re: fork oil, I put 15w grade in mine at the last change and it made a big difference. No longer feel like I'm about to headbutt the ground when I brake hard.

Ady

(and I did check the originator of the thread to see if he's one to get upset at the natural directional change of the thread content. As the originator was GM he probably wont even notice )

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chirodave said:

I was a bit bothered about the softer Divve 900 forks diving on the brakes. After Gurninman's experience with soft forks, I think I'll try organic pads and see how it goes. Blue spots are going to beat the pants of the standard brakes anyway.

You can always fit progressive springs and heavier oil in the Divvy. I just added heavier oil and a little over original level, works a treat.

[Ghoti]

bev said:

You can always fit progressive springs and heavier oil in the Divvy. I just added heavier oil and a little over original level, works a treat.

And add some washers (or 10p coins IIRC) to the top of the springs from a little preload.

Here is a link to picture of Biff's bike with the lights under the normal light.

groups.msn.com/yamahadiversions/biffspics.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=2128

Now, is this off topic, or just an evolving conversation? Should we have started 3 new posts (ie lights, suspension and lorries). DOn't answer coz this is definately off topic!

[m40man]

Here's my original Trophy with a pair of 55w riding lights fitted:



Easy to do. £25.00 plus cost of a relay.

Gave a good 'solid' light when viewed from a distance. Bit like biff's really!

[m40man]

PS: If you invest in big front forks you can save a fortune on preload by using 2p pieces instead of 10p pieces. This money-saving tip was brought to you by www.false-economies.com

[Ghoti]

m40man said:

PS: If you invest in big front forks you can save a fortune on preload by using 2p pieces instead of 10p pieces. This money-saving tip was brought to you by www.false-economies.com

Or you can buy washers the same size at 10p coins. They cost 12p each IIRC

[apricot]

"Easy to do. £25.00 plus cost of a relay."

Now I never thought I'd see that on a post from Martin

"PS: If you invest in big front forks you can save a fortune on preload by using 2p pieces instead of 10p pieces. "

Thats more like it!

[General Gman]

So....... why can't you buy bovril crisps any more ?

[Welsh Ade]

gurninman said:

So....... why can't you buy bovril crisps any more ?

The chipmunk ones of course. come to think of it not seen them in years.

Work well in a crisp butty with brown sauce.

[General Gman]

Anyone remember when fire extinguishers said 'strike knob hard on floor' on 'em ?
The fun we used to have...... ;D

[apricot]

Ever get knocked out during a fire GM?

[General Gman]

Dunno about knocked out, but seriously disabled....

[HRHpenfold]

gurninman said:

So.
Fitted R1 calipers to the FZR when I bought it, they came with nearly new organic pads, so I thought I'd wait til they wore out.
I was more than happy with the braking performance, cosidering the fork seals need doing and fork oil needs to be changed.I also fitted braided lines at the same time.
I've done around 3500 miles since then, and the organic pads were worn to around 1mm, so bought some sintered pads.
Fitted em yesterday (10 mins... calipers in perfect condition, just needed to blow the brake dust off ) and well..... the brakinfg performance is awesome.The FZR with me on board weighs a lot, but the brakes are phenomenal now, and really shows up the need to do the fork seals before the scottish run...

welcome to the 21st century ;D

[HRHpenfold]

chirodave said:

I was a bit bothered about the softer Divve 900 forks diving on the brakes. After Gurninman's experience with soft forks, I think I'll try organic pads and see how it goes. Blue spots are going to beat the pants of the standard brakes anyway.

it will be fine with th HH pads, you'll be able to control the brake easier, i just use 2 fingers to brake on my fazer 600

[HRHpenfold]

chirodave said:

That would be a worry - locking up at 120

Well done for avoiding the T****r. Pocket Stingers or Exocets would be handy.

I like the extra head lights folk put on Beemer GS crashbar frames, but cant find anywhere on the Divvie 9 to put something like that. The D9 headlight is not eactly imposing to oncoming traffic.

am going down the 50W HID route on my GS

www.HID50.com

and fitting spotlights also, like these

www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85660&highlight=btbr

expensive i know, but i like to be able to see and what price safety

[General Gman]

fazerian said:

gurninman said:

So.
Fitted R1 calipers to the FZR when I bought it, they came with nearly new organic pads, so I thought I'd wait til they wore out.
I was more than happy with the braking performance, cosidering the fork seals need doing and fork oil needs to be changed.I also fitted braided lines at the same time.
I've done around 3500 miles since then, and the organic pads were worn to around 1mm, so bought some sintered pads.
Fitted em yesterday (10 mins... calipers in perfect condition, just needed to blow the brake dust off ) and well..... the brakinfg performance is awesome.The FZR with me on board weighs a lot, but the brakes are phenomenal now, and really shows up the need to do the fork seals before the scottish run...

welcome to the 21st century ;D

We're in the 21st century ?
Actually, I've ben using HH pads for years, but didn't see the point in replacing perfectly good items.Bit disappointed they only lasted a couple of thousand miles, mind, but that's more to do with the way I ride.
Had HH pads in the 4 pot nissins on the gixxer - good, but not great and they had a lot less mass to stop.

[CD]

I'm a bit bothered as www.false-economies.com wont work and I'm concerned there's important info on there thats not being seen.

The D6 would look cool with those spots inside the false air intakes. The 900 hasnt got any convenient fairing holes. To get a wider shape between the three lamps, I thought maybe put the spots in place of the indicators. But then where to put the indies. Hmm

For me its not only seeing my way on dark roads but making the bike look wider so a few more myopic motorists get to think, "Hey there's one cool bunch of lights really quite close - better wait" rather than "who cares its only one (or three) lights a long way away". "I'll pull just out anyway".

[CD]

Hey GM. Have the sintered pads worn your discs noticeably faster than the organic pads? I've been told they will grind away the discs in no time, but never tried so can't say from personal experience