Exhaust / wingrack problems

[Swim41]

Hi - my 1997 XJ600N is still on the original exhausts, although I can see that they are going to need to be replaced soon, either with the Motad or Marving system.

Now the thing is, the bike has a wing rack and Givi E21 panniers and I seem to remember from old that there was some issue with aftermarket exhausts and the pannier set up. I've searched and searched and can't find any pictures and I can't remember if it's the boxes or the lower mounting bracket that causes the problem.

Any comments?

thanks

Ben

[alan292]

dont know about the marving but the motad is approx 2 inches longer and 4 inches higher at the tail.....would defo restrict the height available for panniers

[pilgrim]

The Marvings are shorter than and follow the same line as originals. The wingrack takes care of the fouling rear winkers so it should be OK.

If you replace with a 4-1 you might find problems.

HTH

[Swim41]

Cheers - sounds like the Marvings would be the ones to consider. It's a bit annoying really, the bike's main function is touring/camping/rallying so it's good to have the hard luggage.

[sledgegreen]

I had a problem with my Givi panniers about 15 years ago when I fitted an aftermarket exhaust (I think it was a Motad, but not absolutely sure about that). There was a gap between pannier an exhaust when stationary, but either the gap was not big enough or there was enough bounce in the system to allow the pannier and exhaust to touch, because I found that the bottom of the pannier was melting.

I solved the problem by making some adaptors which raised the whole Wingrack about 2" higher. I actually made the adaptors out of MDF, and when I was happy with the size and shape, I took them to an engineering workshop and had them cut the same shapes out of 5mm steel.

Those adaptors did probably about 30,000 miles and never gave me a problem. A large number of those miles were heavily laden, and I occasionally carried a pillion.

If you want me to, I could easily make a 'how to' guide to show how I did this. Just need to find some scrap MDF before i do it.

[pilgrim]

Feb 18, 2013 18:21:12 GMT Swim41 said:

Cheers - sounds like the Marvings would be the ones to consider. It's a bit annoying really, the bike's main function is touring/camping/rallying so it's good to have the hard luggage.

That's what I use my N for.

I do have soft luggage though. Has big leak problems and all in the saddle bags have to be stowed inside waterproof bin sacks.

[Swim41]

Looks good that, mine is a black one too. That's how mine started out originally, with a sports rack, some Oxford panniers and a rollbag on the back. I like the top opening Givi panniers though, great for all your bits and pieces, odds and ends, and of course, no leaks!

On Skye, a couple of years back:

[Swim41]

Feb 18, 2013 19:10:17 GMT sledgegreen said:

I solved the problem by making some adaptors which raised the whole Wingrack about 2" higher. I actually made the adaptors out of MDF, and when I was happy with the size and shape, I took them to an engineering workshop and had them cut the same shapes out of 5mm steel.

Those adaptors did probably about 30,000 miles and never gave me a problem. A large number of those miles were heavily laden, and I occasionally carried a pillion.

If you want me to, I could easily make a 'how to' guide to show how I did this. Just need to find some scrap MDF before i do it.

Thanks for the generous offer - I won't take you up on it at present as the exhausts are still MOT-worthy (just about) so I'm just exploring options at the moment, it is possible that I might get a new bike before it actually becomes an issue. (not that I particularly want a new bikes, quite fond of this one!!)

thanks

Ben