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Post by ralphtown on Nov 23, 2015 9:13:58 GMT
Simple one this.....
How do I know if I,ve got the "race" set up on my brake hoses.
Trying to replace with braided lines but keep running into this "race" and "standard" set up.
My bike is 2001 900.
Pics are in the relevant section if you can see what I,ve got,from the images.
RALPH.
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Post by HRHpenfold on Nov 23, 2015 12:11:08 GMT
it doesn't matter really,
race set up is two lines from the master cylinder,
standard is one to the caliper and another that goes over the mudguard from caliper to caliper or to a splitter and down to each caliper, depending on what is standard!
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Post by cam7777 on Nov 23, 2015 13:04:33 GMT
Simple one this..... How do I know if I,ve got the "race" set up on my brake hoses. Trying to replace with braided lines but keep running into this "race" and "standard" set up. My bike is 2001 900. Pics are in the relevant section if you can see what I,ve got,from the images. RALPH. Go for the standard set up, the race set up will be lost on this bike  |
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Post by bobh on Nov 23, 2015 16:05:16 GMT
Go for the standard set up, the race set up will be lost on this bike But the twin-line "race" setup is probably easier to bleed. That's what I put on my D9, anyway. Made a minor mod to the clamp near the steering head to take two thin hoses, rather than one thick one. |
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Post by HRHpenfold on Nov 23, 2015 16:54:43 GMT
if the standard is a 3 line system, then they will be more expensive than the race line set up!
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Post by cam7777 on Nov 23, 2015 18:42:45 GMT
I just can't get my head around 'race set up' and 'divvy 900' |
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Post by m40man on Nov 23, 2015 19:52:29 GMT
I just can't get my head around 'race set up' and 'divvy 900' Agreed. It's a euphemism for 'cheaper to make'  . |
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Post by ralphtown on Nov 24, 2015 13:16:59 GMT
Same here."race"....very strange.
I,ll get up the lock up and count the hoses then.
I have,nt looked at the bike in real life for a few weeks due to work.
But even looking at the photos on here,looks like I have a link that goes over the mudguard.
I,ll just count the hoses,I guess.
RALPH.
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Post by ralphtown on Nov 28, 2015 15:03:38 GMT
Ordered "standard" set.
Only one line out of master cylinder.
Hope I,ve read it right.
RALPH.
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Post by GAv on Nov 28, 2015 16:41:04 GMT
 This is the old type that came off my 900, and the broken arrow indicates the line or where it should be to go up to the brake banjo that joins the line to brake master cylinder and there is a whole strand on the subject here diversionclub.proboards.com/thread/23313/front-brake-locking-issueHowever these are for mid 90s bikes and not sure if the system remained the same for the later ones. |
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Post by ralphtown on Nov 29, 2015 10:50:28 GMT
The helpful lady at Wemoto says the standard set up invoves replacing this with 2 lines.I,m guessing then,that theres a long one down to one caliper,then a link over the mudguard to the other caliper.
Guess I,ll find out in a week or so.
RALPH.
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Post by fx110 (LIM) on Nov 30, 2015 1:23:41 GMT
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Post by GAv on Nov 30, 2015 9:23:31 GMT
The helpful lady at Wemoto says the standard set up invoves replacing this with 2 lines.I,m guessing then,that theres a long one down to one caliper,then a link over the mudguard to the other caliper. Guess I,ll find out in a week or so. RALPH. I could be wrong Ralph but I would think they will be designed to run from a double Banjo (which should be in the bag with the lines,at the master cylinder end, that go straight down to the calipers each side. Yes they will be different lengths as they have to run further to the left side(I think). fx110 (LIM)Sorry but I cannot understand ,from the above why there are two lines into the right caliper, as part of the fluid into the right side would then have to run back over to the left side one. Surely the original design was so set up to have two way valves, which as discussed elsewhere can get partially blocked and then the two way flow becomes one way only, so those lines seem ass about face, sic above.. You say you had yours done a long while ago so presumably you have found them OK like that, in which case as they say you learn something new every day. |
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Post by ralphtown on Nov 30, 2015 11:33:41 GMT
I suppose,ultimately,it does,nt really matter.
If I,d have ordered the "race" set then it would be 2 lines down from the master cylinder to each side.
The "standard" set up looks complicated and ugly but obviously works.
I,ll be doing a lot to the brakes as I have a "pulse" during braking.Not very bad but its there.Might have more to do with the finish on the wheels than any warpage in the discs as its only got 32k on it.
If you check out the pics of the bike,you,ll see what I mean.
RALPH.
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Post by fx110 (LIM) on Dec 28, 2015 6:58:29 GMT
 "race set" easy to bleed. "over-mudguard" style, may the sometime to bleed. |
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Post by GAv on Dec 28, 2015 14:31:00 GMT
I use a plunger type self bleeder, so you can actually pump fluid in through the brake nipples, however as it is like a syringe better to fill via the master cylinder and then withdraw any air tightening the nipples. Also make sure if you are getting a pulse that one both sides are bled properly as on the original ones(I refer to rubber ones-Wezmo braided may not incorporate such), that it is possible to get an air lock, one side because oif the metal return valve which acts like a compensator I believe. Disc warp or even a slightly loose caliper or unevenly worn brake pads maybe could also be at fault.
Being a simple type I try to go for the simple solutions first...
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