conan
CBT failure
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Post by conan on Mar 21, 2014 9:04:30 GMT
Morning all,
I'm in the process of repairing my divvy from a crash back in October. I need to replace the left hand switch gear but in my haste ordered an item from a '97 bike rather than a '96. The part I received has the button for hazard lights which got me wondering how hard a job it is to add the function to my divvy?
Just wondering if anybody here has done it, or if anybody knows what I would need to do?
I'm guessing it will require a different loom and other bits and pieces?
Thanks,
Conan
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Post by sledgegreen on Mar 21, 2014 17:53:58 GMT
If you want to recreate the factory installation I think you will have a challenge.
When I bought my second Divvy (1999) I tried to fit the Givi rack from my 1995 bike. I found there were some subtle changes in the frame. Then I realised that the frame changes seemed to be to allow fitting of large side panels.
Eventually I realised that the larger plastics were to allow space to mount a row of relays on one of the frame tubes under the pillion riders right thigh, which weren't on the earlier models.
So, different switches, new loom, new plastics.
I have no idea whether it is possible to do an aftermarket-style fitment.
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conan
CBT failure
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Post by conan on Mar 21, 2014 23:46:36 GMT
So, not easy!
That answers it. Thanks!
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Post by neilmud Lord Protector on Mar 22, 2014 0:22:03 GMT
Dont know but I wopuld have thought you have
live-earth left
live-earth right
then add left & right to earth for hazard
or am I being too simplistic not sure which side is switched but as long as you wire them the same should work
Neil
Ps might flash at different rate but it is only hazards
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Post by chris on Mar 22, 2014 8:15:57 GMT
The previous owner has done this on my 97 divvy, i have an extra set of wires going to front indicators from left switch gear and i believe there is a second relay at the back of the bike to
Hope this helps a little
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Post by CD on Mar 22, 2014 12:26:28 GMT
Connecting the left and right indicators will cause all four to flash. An electronic relay will keep the same flash rate regardless of bulb loads. Perhaps all you need is for the new switch to connect the left and right and drop in a better relay. You can check it out with temporary wires.
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Post by sledgegreen on Mar 23, 2014 13:33:08 GMT
"...and drop in a better relay. You can check it out with temporary wires."
You would also need the better relay.
However, that does suggest a way forward - why not visit your friendly local Yam dealer and ask about replacements for the indicator and hazard flasher relays?
If the replacement for both pre-96 and post-96 bikes is the same single relay, then you have probably hit the jackpot. Add some wires to the switch so that the flasher switch links to both left and right circuits, and you are there.
If there is a single relay for both, but it is a different relay for pre-96 and post-96 and both relays have the same connector layout, then CD is probably right. Fit the later relay, fiddle the switch and you are there.
If the later bikes have an extra relay, or a single relay which fits a different socket to the earlier ones, then I think you are probably looking at significant re-wiring.
Something else occurred to me whilst writing this post - if the only wiring change is to make the connections between left and right circuits and the hazard switch, then that might be hard-wired as part of the switch assembly. Have you had a look inside the switch to see if there are any copper strips linking the hazard switch and the indicator switch. If the switches are separately linked to the connector, then I would think that is a good indication that there is some extra circuitry somewhere.
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